2013 British GP: Friday & Saturday Free Practice Thread

[yz2006]

Sad, sad, sad our only hope is Vettel DNF. And that is just SAD!

even Vettel NDF.. How much deficit we can cut with this car?

[radosav]

oh shut up you all! Crybabies !

[Infi24r]

even Vettel NDF.. How much deficit we can cut with this car?

Ferrari can win easily.

Those Mercedes wont lead after the first pit stops.

[Senna4Ever]

Its time to change on high level
Fighting with an TR during Qualifying would be double punch straight in the face ...

as 2014 is the beginning of a new technical area Stefano should have the courage to step down as he isn't able to hire right persons or give right direction or set clear milestones and let action follow if reached or not.

It is the 4th year in a row where the car is mid-class and Ferrari hasn't done some special in terms of technical progress or setting new trends as seen in the beginning of 00-years
Even worse: over the season we loose the contact to other two big teams in terms of ongoing development ...

and compared to what Ferrari puts money into this department the results are big fail and catastrophe .

We are back in 90ties where Ferrari was nice but not at the music.
Its okay for me if we stay there but then the high level management shouldn't pay us as dump heads ...

Finito ...

[Infi24r]

Its time to change on high level
Fighting with an TR during Qualifying is double punch straight in the face ...

wait for Quali. That was only Practice 3. The cars can usually go the best bit of a second faster in qualifying.

I think Alonso will be able to get that car up behind the Red Bull's.

Which may not be ideal, but its essentially 3rd in the race.

[theforce]

Regardless of where we qualify, Fernando will secure a podium and even a win is possible.

[Senna4Ever]

wait for Quali. That was only Practice 3. The cars can usually go the best bit of a second faster in qualifying.

I think Alonso will be able to get that car up behind the Red Bull's.

Which may not be ideal, but its essentially 3rd in the race.

Change from 'fact' to 'expect'
but the rest is as it is ...

[long2ma]

So obviously the best Ferrari can start for the race is third row, or fourth behind the Lotus.

[long2ma]

Hopeless for the championship then.

[bonzo]

Regardless of where we qualify, Fernando will secure a podium and even a win is possible.

Do you expect both RBs and Kimi and Hamster all DNF?

[bonzo]

Ferrari 2014:
New engine - yes
New car - yes
New second driver - yes
New boss - absolute must!!

[Rob]

Its the same old same from the same people. I have many Mclaren friends, they are struggling but they are not bashing the team, slating the car they are behind the team, 120% and believe in the team that it will change.

We can aswell, the car is good, so what we seemed off pace in FP3, so was Vettel. Its meant to be warmer tomorrow and that will. WILL help us. 3rd row at start be ok, get round the loop section and got nice overtaking chances down into Brooklands. Its not all doom and gloom.

[bonzo]

Its the same old same from the same people. I have many Mclaren friends, they are struggling but they are not bashing the team, slating the car they are behind the team, 120% and believe in the team that it will change.

We can aswell, the car is good, so what we seemed off pace in FP3, so was Vettel. Its meant to be warmer tomorrow and that will. WILL help us. 3rd row at start be ok, get round the loop section and got nice overtaking chances down into Brooklands. Its not all doom and gloom.

But not 5 years in a raw...

[bonzo]

2012 it was the wind tunnel, what is it now to blame it on? Or rather who is it?

[bonzo]

I am not bashing, it just hurts. A lot.

[Rob]

But not 5 years in a raw...

So, still no need to bash the team every race weekend. Yeah so what we may struggle sometimes, we may just miss WDC WCC, sacking people isnt the way forward. Understanding the results, car and the WHOLE team is the key. If got good team continuity each year is the way to go. Sacking people getting new people in who then has to understand team and work ethos would slow everything down again. We have best team, best driver, when are time comes (this year) it will taste so so much better. Also, RBR will be on backfoot next year with new regs.

It may be hard to watch sometimes, but i know the team can and will get better Saturday results.

[Rob]

2012 it was the wind tunnel, what is it now to blame it on? Or rather who is it?

weather.

[Hornet]

oh shut up you all! Crybabies !

If you think the fans are harsh, you'd probably be surprised by what Luca DM has in mind Ferrari did not get to be a top team by being complacent. Ferrari is a top team because they ruthlessly want to win.

The fan's frustration doesn't come from the fact that we are having a bad weekend, but it comes from the fact that we are having yet another same bad weekend we've seen for many years. Unlike other teams who faces different challenges with different car, we seem to face the same problem year in year out.

It doesn't mean we must bash the team of course, but we cannot deny that something has to be done, rather than just accepting this year as another one of those you put in the in a hidden corner and never talk about it again. I don't know what it is, only the people in the team knows why with different car and different approach, we still end up with the same problem every year. Is there a problem in our design philosophy? Are we having problem adapting to a simulation based approach rather than brute force testing? Is there a management problem?

[Forzi]

Not seeing what's with the doom and gloom. Been rather happy, expecting 2-3 row for both boys. Did i miss something?

[FA fan]

Not seeing what's with the doom and gloom. Been rather happy, expecting 2-3 row for both boys. Did i miss something?

Exactly,it's not like we are expecting pole position!! I suppose we should get used to the 3rd row by now,anything better is a bonus!!!!!

[Kiwi Nick]

Exactly,it's not like we are expecting pole position!! I suppose we should get used to the 3rd row by now,anything better is a bonus!!!!!

And 5th and 6th rows would be what?

[FerrariF60]

Not seeing what's with the doom and gloom. Been rather happy, expecting 2-3 row for both boys. Did i miss something?

i think you missed quite a bit...whatever happened the 2nd or 3rd row you were expecting....
i kind of knew we'd ALMOST miss Q3, and we did with one car....the car looked like a hadfull to drive all weekend....just like it looked in australia in 2012...that's right, ONE AND A HALF years ago....

but we'll get the usual excuse form stefano taht we're not happy with the results and that we're gonna have to work harder at it...waht else is NEW???

[FerrariF60]

And 5th and 6th rows would be what?

hopefully NOT a trend for the remaining of teh season....i bet Luca D. M. is already fuming and ready to roll some heads

[Forzi]

i think you missed quite a bit...whatever happened the 2nd or 3rd row you were expecting....
i kind of knew we'd ALMOST miss Q3, and we did with one car....the car looked like a hadfull to drive all weekend....just like it looked in australia in 2012...that's right, ONE AND A HALF years ago....

but we'll get the usual excuse form stefano taht we're not happy with the results and that we're gonna have to work harder at it...waht else is NEW???

I didn't watch PF3 first half, but saw pretty much everything. Didn't hear anything specific from the team about the situation being that bad, just had practice results, that rarely show what's where. Please don't go so low and accuse of not knowing something that can't possibly be precisely known, mate

[Suzie]

So, still no need to bash the team every race weekend.

I agree, Rob. Yes it can be frustrating seeing performances such as today but in 2008 on the weekends when we didn't have the best car and Felipe was fighting for the WDC, I never started kicking off or complaining about Ferrari - actually, I can't remember ANYONE doing so, or calling for people's heads. Granted, the F2008 was a hell of a car and a 'bad' weekend probably still meant top 5 if not the lower steps of the podium, but it's all relative.

It's just very sad to see people kicking off - sack this person, sack that person, sack everyone. Complaining that Alonso's wasting his best years at our team. Do you not realise that comments like that are not particularly nice to read for the people who have been supporting Ferrari long before Alonso arrived? I don't like this perception that Ferrari somehow 'owe' him something because he has graced the team with his presence. Maybe he expected better cars over the time he has been with Ferrari but as I recall he didn't have a whole load of options as to where to go after two years dragging those Renaults around, post-McLaren disaster.

Added to which, if your memory is short enough to forget that practically every. single. race. weekend we have a MUCH better day on Sunday than Saturday I'm afraid you have bigger things to concern yourself with than the performance of a Formula One team.

[Rob]

I agree, Rob. Yes it can be frustrating seeing performances such as today but in 2008 on the weekends when we didn't have the best car and Felipe was fighting for the WDC, I never started kicking off or complaining about Ferrari - actually, I can't remember ANYONE doing so, or calling for people's heads. Granted, the F2008 was a hell of a car and a 'bad' weekend probably still meant top 5 if not the lower steps of the podium, but it's all relative.

It's just very sad to see people kicking off - sack this person, sack that person, sack everyone. Complaining that Alonso's wasting his best years at our team. Do you not realise that comments like that are not particularly nice to read for the people who have been supporting Ferrari long before Alonso arrived? I don't like this perception that Ferrari somehow 'owe' him something because he has graced the team with his presence. Maybe he expected better cars over the time he has been with Ferrari but as I recall he didn't have a whole load of options as to where to do after two years dragging those Renaults around, post-McLaren disaster.

Added to which, if your memory is short enough to forget that practically every. single. race. weekend we have a MUCH better day on Sunday than Saturday I'm afraid you have bigger things to concern yourself with than the performance of a Formula One team.

[FrankAlfa]

The CONTINUED problem with Ferrari is their inablity to win consistantly and they, unlike Mercedes, have not worked on the ability to QUALIFY WELL!!!

Get in Front and Stay in Front has always been the Formula and yet it has been many years now and we Ferrari Fans are out raged that the Ferrari Team STILL DOES NOT UNDERSTAND this Concept!

There is NO EXCUSE for this Continued State of qualifying 5th of lower race after race for years now! As for Massa, please fire him and put us all and the Ferrari Team out of our misery with his performance! ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!!!

I have been watching Formula One and supporting the Ferrari Team for over 45 years!!!! That is a very long time and I am tired of the Bernie Eccelsone "Melodrama" we have for such a long time now and I tire of Ferrari having very incompetent people running the team!

To have Designed a race car with NO Adjustment in the suspension geometry is outrageous! They have a "One Dimentional Race Car" is Shame on them! I, like many Ferrari Fans, can not stomach the continued "Sub-Par", "Mediocre" Perfromance from the Ferrari Team and Luca Montezemolo must correct this, AGAIN!!!! Get rid of Domenicalli, Tombazis & Massa to start and put a Strong Engineer in as Team Principle & Chief Designer, hire a good young driver to drive Massa's car and be done with this!!!!!

[Suzie]

Frank, you need to CALM DOWN.

[Paulo Goncalves]

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They (FIA) dont even count with the Scuderia Ferrari. So disapointed we may are. Go Naaaaandoooooo!!!!

[FerrariF60]

The CONTINUED problem with Ferrari is their inablity to win consistantly and they, unlike Mercedes, have not worked on the ability to QUALIFY WELL!!!

Get in Front and Stay in Front has always been the Formula and yet it has been many years now and we Ferrari Fans are out raged that the Ferrari Team STILL DOES NOT UNDERSTAND this Concept!

There is NO EXCUSE for this Continued State of qualifying 5th of lower race after race for years now! As for Massa, please fire him and put us all and the Ferrari Team out of our misery with his performance! ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!!!

I have been watching Formula One and supporting the Ferrari Team for over 45 years!!!! That is a very long time and I am tired of the Bernie Eccelsone "Melodrama" we have for such a long time now and I tire of Ferrari having very incompetent people running the team!

To have Designed a race car with NO Adjustment in the suspension geometry is outrageous! They have a "One Dimentional Race Car" is Shame on them! I, like many Ferrari Fans, can not stomach the continued "Sub-Par", "Mediocre" Perfromance from the Ferrari Team and Luca Montezemolo must correct this, AGAIN!!!! Get rid of Domenicalli, Tombazis & Massa to start and put a Strong Engineer in as Team Principle & Chief Designer, hire a good young driver to drive Massa's car and be done with this!!!!!

Frank, you need to CALM DOWN.

i knwo Frank may sound a little hursh and out of hand....but in a way he is kind of right...Ferrari's performance has been sub par for, well since 2009....
and i know that being a TRUE ferrari fan, one must be loyal through thick and thin...but i must say, it's been thin for too long....ALL the fans around the world DEMAND a better performance by what's supposed to be....THE BEST TEAM IN TEH WORLD....