2024 Hungarian GP-Practice & Qualifying

**stefa** · 20th July 2024, 11:13

Looks like 4th fastest team

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 11:20

The bulls are not showing their hand yet still on hard tyres as is AM. Maybe they know they are quick and would rather find out more about the hard tyres.

**stefa** · 20th July 2024, 11:23

This is going to be yet another painful weekend

**Kyss4k** · 20th July 2024, 11:23

Originally Posted by stefa

Looks like 4th fastest team

4th fastest if we're lucky

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 11:28

Sainz is getting more out of the car than Charles. He's up to 5th

**nani_s23** · 20th July 2024, 11:33

SF-24 is a gone case, ferrari once again lost development battle against rivals.

It’s good that they got two wins. I thought they would get another win at Hungary & Singapore given the car design & nature of the circuit, even that’s gone now.

Behind Williams & Haas is very disappointing.

**stefa** · 20th July 2024, 11:33

Originally Posted by Kyss4k

4th fastest if we're lucky

No matter how low I put my expectations, yet they always dissapoint

**Kyss4k** · 20th July 2024, 11:36

Originally Posted by racingbradley

Sainz is getting more out of the car than Charles. He's up to 5th

He is doing that most at most of the races recently, so yeah... not surprised.

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 11:38

Originally Posted by stefa

No matter how low I put my expectations, yet they always dissapoint

I feel sorry for you having made the journey to Hungary expecting a little more from the team.
Hope we can pull something out of the bag either in quali or better still the race in both might be a bit too much to expect!!!!!!

**stefa** · 20th July 2024, 11:42

Originally Posted by racingbradley

I feel sorry for you having made the journey to Hungary expecting a little more from the team.
Hope we can pull something out of the bag either in quali or better still the race in both might be a bit too much to expect!!!!!!

I hope! I am also going to Monza later on. They should really step up their game!

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 11:53

Originally Posted by stefa

I hope! I am also going to Monza later on. They should really step up their game!

Monza after the summer break might improve our fortune. Charles came back better after his hols last year !!!!!!!

**FerrariF60** · 20th July 2024, 11:55

Originally Posted by stefa

This is going to be yet another painful weekend

Hopefully we don’t get lapped during the race like last year, that was painful to watch

**FerrariF60** · 20th July 2024, 12:01

Originally Posted by stefa

I hope! I am also going to Monza later on. They should really step up their game!

I wouldn’t bet in that, unless you want to throw money out the window

Ferrari clearly settled down as being 4th fastest team….mclaren showed them how it’s done. They started with a truck of a car at the beginning of the year and now they are challenging for wins at every track

Ferrari on the other hand ARE TOTALLY LOST…

Oh well, like I said so many times lately, roll on 2025…but my expectations for next year are quite low already, so maybe 2026??

**stefa** · 20th July 2024, 12:09

Rain expected

**ntukza** · 20th July 2024, 12:28

We are such a useless team. Loads of money, loads of history, loads of prestige, but absolutely useless.

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 12:41

We just need one good race and everyone will cheer up. My goodness we need it!!!!!
I had hoped this track would suit our car and I am still hoping.............................

**PURE PASSION** · 20th July 2024, 12:50

Originally Posted by racingbradley

We just need one good race and everyone will cheer up. My goodness we need it!!!!!
I had hoped this track would suit our car and I am still hoping.............................

Even if this ,by miracle, happens, why do you think thos will change something? We had a win in Monaco. We where on the top of the mountain and the future looked as hopeful as ever. And the team and Lec manage by their own merits to become mediocre at least. This is unacceptable for a team and a driver who what's to be No1.
Sorry but both driver and team has NO excuses any more.
I like / love 1st of all the team and then Lec and even know a hope for something better every weekend, but they both keep disappointing me in the worst way.
So I think they need more then a good result to turn thongs around.

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 12:56

Let's take one race at a time.... a good result here would be a positive hope that we were getting the measure of the car and it may keep us ahead of McLaren.

**nani_s23** · 20th July 2024, 12:56

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Even if this ,by miracle, happens, why do you think thos will change something? We had a win in Monaco. We where on the top of the mountain and the future looked as hopeful as ever. And the team and Lec manage by their own merits to become mediocre at least. This is unacceptable for a team and a driver who what's to be No1.
Sorry but both driver and team has NO excuses any more.
I like / love 1st of all the team and then Lec and even know a hope for something better every weekend, but they both keep disappointing me in the worst way.
So I think they need more then a good result to turn thongs around.

Alonso/Vettel & now Leclerc were around the Ferrari team. Did team build a consistent championship winning car around a driver ? Answer is No.

Do you have No.1 driver your team? No.
Then how do you call Leclerc No.1 driver when team is not around you & build a strong car similar to what RB had done to Vettel & Max, Mercs to Ham.

It’s simple Ferrari unable to build a car consistently throughout the season. When you don’t have a trust in the car, mistakes by team/driver/pit stops/strategies everything will happen.

**PURE PASSION** · 20th July 2024, 13:02

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Alonso/Vettel & now Leclerc were around the Ferrari team. Did team build a consistent championship winning car around a driver ? Answer is No.

Do you have No.1 driver your team? No.
Then how do you call Leclerc No.1 driver when team is not around you & build a strong car similar to what RB had done to Vettel & Max, Mercs to Ham.

It’s simple Ferrari unable to build a car consistently throughout the season. When you don’t have a trust in the car, mistakes by team/driver/pit stops/strategies everything will happen.

Don't disagree with that.
But lately Lec has lowered his driving performance massively. Sainz has has surpassed him in every single aspect. Sainz loon to take matters on his own hands and force things to deliver the best results. And that's what happenning. Lec make mistakes, obey the team even when he thinks otherwise, looks to can't have a good feeling with the car and find a good set up (I mean he is worst then Sainz) and the worst he lost his ability to perform I. A different level. To find a lap time when you don't expect it. Saimz look to do it instead of him.

**nani_s23** · 20th July 2024, 13:08

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Don't disagree with that.
But lately Lec has lowered his driving performance massively. Sainz has has surpassed him in every single aspect. Sainz loon to take matters on his own hands and force things to deliver the best results. And that's what happenning. Lec make mistakes, obey the team even when he thinks otherwise, looks to can't have a good feeling with the car and find a good set up (I mean he is worst then Sainz) and the worst he lost his ability to perform I. A different level. To find a lap time when you don't expect it. Saimz look to do it instead of him.

Sainz performs or don’t perform doesn’t matter.
Still Leclerc is the bench mark in quali.
Week in & out, Ferrari-Leclerc trying too much experimenting on the set-up. It’s not Sainz.
He’s having smooth FP’s all the time, it’s other way around for Leclerc.

SF-24 drivability is gone. Its slow speed corner performance is also gone.

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 13:31

Oh why did we let Andrea Stella go?

**PURE PASSION** · 20th July 2024, 13:44

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Sainz performs or don’t perform doesn’t matter.
Still Leclerc is the bench mark in quali.
Week in & out, Ferrari-Leclerc trying too much experimenting on the set-up. It’s not Sainz.
He’s having smooth FP’s all the time, it’s other way around for Leclerc.

SF-24 drivability is gone. Its slow speed corner performance is also gone.

Well we don't know that for sure.
That the team experimenting with Lec on the set up in every race. Lec said this on Silverstone only.
I would accept if i hear (almost official) that they have somehow again let this season ,due to the problems of Cardille's updates, and they want to use as many races to experiment in the eye on next year's car design. So this can't rely on Sainz since he's leaving.
And that's why we see Sainz preforming better/stable ,because he is having a more general/ basic set up .
BUT all this is just a theoretical scenario.
Is it exactly like this, or is it that Lec has somehow lost his way and he has gave up??!!!
I would 100% be glad if I somehow learned that's the 1st!!!!!

**nani_s23** · 20th July 2024, 13:53

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Well we don't know that for sure.
That the team experimenting with Lec on the set up in every race. Lec said this on Silverstone only.
I would accept if i hear (almost official) that they have somehow again let this season ,due to the problems of Cardille's updates, and they want to use as many races to experiment in the eye on next year's car design. So this can't rely on Sainz since he's leaving.
And that's why we see Sainz preforming better/stable ,because he is having a more general/ basic set up .
BUT all this is just a theoretical scenario.
Is it exactly like this, or is it that Lec has somehow lost his way and he has gave up??!!!
I would 100% be glad if I somehow learned that's the 1st!!!!!

Sainz driving for his seat next year, he wants to get the best deal out of it.

On pure performance quali or race, Sainz is never a top league driver. I would rate him Good Racer but not strong to fight with Max who is the current benchmark.

Only Leclerc/Ham can take fight to Max, given a strong car.

**racingbradley** · 20th July 2024, 13:56

I don't think Charles has lost his way but I do think he's overdriving and this leads to mistakes.
But then which do we prefer a slow driver who drives a steady race and is lucky sometimes to pick
up the pieces where others have failed or a quick driver who sometimes makes mistakes because
he's driving on the limit?

**PURE PASSION** · 20th July 2024, 14:04

I think you have misunderstood me.
I say all this just because I consider Lec one of the best/ fastest driver's out there.
He is the 1st driver that I actually support apart from the team. I love the guy and can't wait to see him champion.
So when I see Sainz (who I also consider him lower then Lec ) perform better constantly, I get furtstrated and sad.

**drax** · 20th July 2024, 14:12

Perez will be fired from Red Bull

**Greig** · 20th July 2024, 14:30

Originally Posted by nani_s23

Sainz driving for his seat next year, he wants to get the best deal out of it.

On pure performance quali or race, Sainz is never a top league driver. I would rate him Good Racer but not strong to fight with Max who is the current benchmark.

Only Leclerc/Ham can take fight to Max, given a strong car.

Charles should start driving for his seat also then.

Sainz already matched up not badly with Max.....