2024 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Race

[Cavallino]

Where did the +6s lead disappear to at the end of the 1st stint?

looking for an answer to this as well, Piastri should have never been that close

I did notice the gap coming down before Piastri even pitted

[Cavallino]

Yup…!! It’s his race to loose. He admitted it as a mistake. But the mistake is at wrong time as WCC & WDC on the line.

Max is really struggling finishing at P4-P5-P6’s

So every win is important for Ferrari & Charles.

right, so because Ferrari decided to not show up at all during the summer, Charles has to be perfect to bail them out now

and again, where is Sainz

[nani_s23]

and Sainz had a chance to redeem himself, instead he tucks his nose along side Leclerc and messes up his corner entry

Yup… he should have covered Perez, instead of fighting with Charles. He is like that.

Radio communication should have been clear that Leclerc is struggling, cover Perez & stay at P3.

[Tifoso Svedese]

What championship on the line? If McLaren can keep up at a circuit like this, they will absolutely destroy Ferrari around Austin, Mexico and Qatar. It's a miracle if they don't 1-2 the WDC at this rate given how slow Max is.

[Cavallino]

Yup… he should have covered Perez, instead of fighting with Charles. He is like that.

Radio communication should have been clear that Leclerc is struggling, cover Perez & stay at P3.

100%

[Cavallino]

Yup… he should have covered Perez, instead of fighting with Charles. He is like that.

Radio communication should have been clear that Leclerc is struggling, cover Perez & stay at P3.

100%

[Cavallino]

What championship on the line? If McLaren can keep up at a circuit like this, they will absolutely destroy Ferrari around Austin, Mexico and Qatar. It's a miracle if they don't 1-2 the WDC at this rate given how slow Max is.

it's amazing what you can do when you can alter your aero dynamic configuration as you go around a lap

[JPZ]

Surprised at some of the vitriol from people on here, Leclerc still finished second, the Mclaren was faster on the straights due to less wing, even Piastri said he thought the lunge had a 50/50 chance. But fair game, Piastri got the pass, that's racing.

Sainz should have not been trying to fight Leclerc but rather defending against Perez and I consider the crash far worse than losing the win as it increases Mclaren's lead even more in the WCC. Ferrari needed those points.

[nani_s23]

looking for an answer to this as well, Piastri should have never been that close

I did notice the gap coming down before Piastri even pitted

Probably we need to look at In-lap & Out-lap of Leclerc & Oscar. That should give a better idea.

Anyways, ferrari lost important points & Win.

Need to bring that flexi-wing to Austin & take a fight to McLaren. If Ferrari-Charles can fight for the win in Austin then it’s game on for WCC.

[Cavallino]

Probably we need to look at In-lap & Out-lap of Leclerc & Oscar. That should give a better idea.

Anyways, ferrari lost important points & Win.

Need to bring that flexi-wing to Austin & take a fight to McLaren. If Ferrari-Charles can fight for the win in Austin then it’s game on for WCC.

yes, we need an answer to the flexi wing to even have a shot even if we won these races.

atleast we gain on red bull and max

[Cavallino]

Probably we need to look at In-lap & Out-lap of Leclerc & Oscar. That should give a better idea.

Anyways, ferrari lost important points & Win.

Need to bring that flexi-wing to Austin & take a fight to McLaren. If Ferrari-Charles can fight for the win in Austin then it’s game on for WCC.

i can't blame Charles too much for taking it easy on the out lap like you're supposed to

[GoodtimesF1]

and Sainz had a chance to redeem himself, instead he tucks his nose along side Leclerc and messes up his corner entry

Not really sure what you expect from Carlos here. Charles his tires were gone and he would have been a sitting duck.

[Cavallino]

Surprised at some of the vitriol from people on here, Leclerc still finished second, the Mclaren was faster on the straights due to less wing, even Piastri said he thought the lunge had a 50/50 chance. But fair game, Piastri got the pass, that's racing.

Sainz should have not been trying to fight Leclerc but rather defending against Perez and I consider the crash far worse than losing the win as it increases Mclaren's lead even more in the WCC. Ferrari needed those points.

did they have less wing or does their wing stall out to become a low downforce wing on the straights?

[Tifoso Svedese]

btw the wing has been deemed legal, Charles could have won today but was sleeping when Piastri passed him.

McLaren owner = Bahrain
FIA president = Bahrain

Enough said

McLaren won this title the moment Todt resigned the presidency. Since then they've brought more upgrades than anyone else, seemingly not afraid of any budget cap audits. Not to mention illegal car parts that get waved by for an offer the scrutineers can't refuse. It's a pretty cunning plot, I have to hand it to them. Controlling the governing body tends to pay off for Penske at the Indy 500 too. It's kind of effective.

It's the continuation of the team that did the industrial espionage in 2007 so nothing surprises me with them. If McLaren didn't get their hands on the Ferrari IP that spring that's two consecutive easy WDC but all out of a sudden McLaren became much quicker.

[PURE PASSION]

I think this race was pretty much won by McL's flexy front win . Its like a 2nd drs. They can run more loaded wings so they are oretty fast on corners but on straights it gives them an edge. Im so cnfused when i see the top speeds of McL on fPs ,witch was the lowest and how ease they could overtake /defend on the race . Not only against us but with RedBull also.
Lets see if we manage to have the same gain ,when (IF) we have our own in Austin

[Cavallino]

Not really sure what you expect from Carlos here. Charles his tires were gone and he would have been a sitting duck.

they were through the straights?

you saw Norris hold up Perez through the castle section earlier right?

you back Perez off in the castle section, and get a good launch out of the final corner. Red Bull had too much wing on to pass if you got a good launch out of the final corner. And their wings don't move so they're stuck with that wing level

[JPZ]

did they have less wing or does their wing stall out to become a low downforce wing on the straights?

Interesting question!

[Cavallino]

I think this race was pretty much won by McL's flexy front win . Its like a 2nd drs. They can run more loaded wings so they are oretty fast on corners but on straights it gives them an edge. Im so cnfused when i see the top speeds of McL on fPs ,witch was the lowest and how ease they could overtake /defend on the race . Not only against us but with RedBull also.
Lets see if we manage to have the same gain ,when (IF) we have our own in Austin

i'm agreeing with you a lot today

that's what i think too

[nani_s23]

Not really sure what you expect from Carlos here. Charles his tires were gone and he would have been a sitting duck.

I guess it’s 2017 or 2018 Hungary GP… where Ferrari ordered Kimi to cover Vettel while Ham is attacking. Vettel was having issue & just nursing the car in the right hand corners.

Charles does have outside chance on WDC, so he should be given the preference. On top of it, if Sainz passed Charles, he would be sitting duck for Perez. So potential P2-P3 would have gone.

[nani_s23]

did they have less wing or does their wing stall out to become a low downforce wing on the straights?

Good point. Anyways FIA deemed it legal, RB & Ferrari planned to bring this out in Austin. Let’s see.

[JPZ]

I guess it’s 2017 or 2018 Hungary GP… where Ferrari ordered Kimi to cover Vettel while Ham is attacking. Vettel was having issue & just nursing the car in the right hand corners.

Charles does have outside chance on WDC, so he should be given the preference. On top of it, if Sainz passed Charles, he would be sitting duck for Perez. So potential P2-P3 would have gone.

Exactly. From a WCC points and team perspective, made no sense for Sainz to attack Leclerc, needed to help defend the 2-3 positions.

[Cavallino]

Good point. Anyways FIA deemed it legal, RB & Ferrari planned to bring this out in Austin. Let’s see.

yes, that update package is crucial, because we always knew these 3 tracks here suited us. We don't even fully know if the porpoising is cured

[FerrariF60]

You’re unbelievable.

He’s right though, Charles lost the race when he fell asleep and did not cover the inside, simple as that
The way Oscar was doing lap after lap after lap when he got in front of Charles

[Greig]

Sainz did not even attack Leclerec he was just on the racing line...

[racingbradley]

Hmm Carlos lost a possible 15 points, Charles 7 points for the team.
But hey ho we were fighting the top team atm.
It's not long ago since we were crying about being the 4th quickest team.
We have come a long way in months. Kudos to team Ferrari.
Now we look forward to Singapore next week where we could be strong.
I am sure lessons have been learned.

[nani_s23]

Sainz did not even attack Leclerec he was just on the racing line...

He overtook Perez first & covered him. He saw leclerc struggling immediately he tried to pass leclerc.

Leclerc’s defense is valid, question is why was Sainz attacking Leclerc.

[Cavallino]

Hmm Carlos lost a possible 15 points, Charles 7 points for the team.
But hey ho we were fighting the top team atm.
It's not long ago since we were crying about being the 4th quickest team.
We have come a long way in months. Kudos to team Ferrari.

yes but so far only at tracks that strongly favor the Ferrari

[Cavallino]

He overtook Perez first & covered him. He saw leclerc struggling immediately he tried to pass leclerc.

Leclerc’s defense is valid, question is why was Sainz attacking Leclerc.

this, if Sainz holds back even a little then Leclerc can move over onto the racing line

[paolo lalli]

Good result in the end that's racing .At least we were fighting the top team.Ferrari are on the right path 2nd half of the season has started very well indeed.Carlos could have assisted somewhat but his ego ruins him he got exactly what he deserved.

[jgonzalesm6]

So, Sainz crashes into Checo at the penultimate lap...as per Karun's breakdown.