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    Quote Originally Posted by Brembo View Post
    Masi did what he had to do! Lewis would now be going for #9 ! Lewis did shut up for months after the theft. Liberty is looking out for Liberty, who can blame them?
    Gotta say, Hamilton fans are bigger cry babies than Hamilton himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS454 View Post
    Gotta say, Hamilton fans are bigger cry babies than Hamilton himself.
    true that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS454 View Post
    Gotta say, Hamilton fans are bigger cry babies than Hamilton himself.
    Well said!!!! Masi + Lewis, Todt+Rubens !

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    I am hoping beyond hope that today's media frenzy referring to a Hamilton/Charles swap being engineered by John Ellkan is an attempt to disrupt the ongoing car development and team harmony on the eve of Charles' home race in Monaco. I just hope that for once, luck will be on his side and this rumour will die a natural death.

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    Wouldn't be the first time we signed an ex world champion, way past his prime, for silly amounts of money, in the hope that he will make the car go quicker. Rather than develop young new champions, like Red Bull, we've become a retirement home for has-beens (Alonso excluded)

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    Hamilton joining Ferrari will be the final nail in the coffin made of failure that surrounds Ferrari at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseman View Post
    Wouldn't be the first time we signed an ex world champion, way past his prime, for silly amounts of money, in the hope that he will make the car go quicker. Rather than develop young new champions, like Red Bull, we've become a retirement home for has-beens (Alonso excluded)
    What has-beens have we signed?

    Can only win titles when the car is capable.
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    Vettel, Kimi. 40 mil to Lewis won't make the car go any quicker either. Waste of money when we can replace Carlos instead with one of our own protoges
    Last edited by Cheeseman; 22nd May 2023 at 20:01.

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    Kimi maybe but he was still winning races, Vettel was not a has-been in the slightest.
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    It would become a marketing bo the om for ferrari should hamilton jump.Ferrari are a marketing machine and then a formula1 manufacturer. Look at the eye watering amont ferrari is worth.if it was to pay off and and Hami wins a world title at ferrari it would be of monumental proportions. If it failed then guess what it would just end up being another day at ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseman View Post
    Vettel, Kimi. 40 mil to Lewis won't make the car go any quicker either. Waste of money when we can replace Carlos instead with one of our own protoges
    Vettel was no has been, neither was Kimi. Vettel was probably overhyped, all car, makes you wonder who of the current driver class is also overhyped...

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    Hamilton is negotiating a new deal with Merc and it's not going well according to Toto.
    Could this rumour about joining Ferrari be of his making to get a higher deal?
    If it were true then all of this would be done behind closed doors. It would be far too unsettling for the drivers who have the rest of the season to deal with and very unprofessional.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseman View Post
    Wouldn't be the first time we signed an ex world champion, way past his prime, for silly amounts of money, in the hope that he will make the car go quicker. Rather than develop young new champions, like Red Bull, we've become a retirement home for has-beens (Alonso excluded)
    Kimi excluded. He is after all our last WDC...........back in 2007


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    Quote Originally Posted by racingbradley View Post
    Kimi excluded. He is after all our last WDC...........back in 2007

    Honestly if this does pan out. 2 things come to mind.

    (1) Money talks and t walks.
    (2) Great way to have a lot more supporters watching Ferrari ( marketing and revenue goes up for the team )
    Drive it like you stole it!

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    Toto is the one making a mocery of this contract saga with lewis he is almost forcing his hand and lewis is biding his time.His contract is performance based and if merc can not be at the front then it posses a problem.This ultimately leaves the door open mainly for ferrari.In this whacky f1 sport with so many twists and turns I have come to always expect the unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo lalli View Post
    Toto is the one making a mocery of this contract saga with lewis he is almost forcing his hand and lewis is biding his time.His contract is performance based and if merc can not be at the front then it posses a problem.This ultimately leaves the door open mainly for ferrari.In this whacky f1 sport with so many twists and turns I have come to always expect the unexpected.
    Let's hope Charles stays and shows him how it is done.


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    Gazzetta reports that John Elkann wants Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc for Ferrari, basically creating a super team.

    Gazzetta reports that discussions with Charles on contract renewal are currently on standby [car performance] but Charles intends to respect his current contract & is considered immovable by Elkann, who promised him a long-term renewal with the prospect of being team leader.





    also

    Gazzetta reports that Honda will return to F1 in 2026 by supplying engines to Aston Martin!

    Official announcement is expected to come tomorrow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Gazzetta reports that John Elkann wants Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc for Ferrari, basically creating a super team.

    Gazzetta reports that discussions with Charles on contract renewal are currently on standby [car performance] but Charles intends to respect his current contract & is considered immovable by Elkann, who promised him a long-term renewal with the prospect of being team leader.
    Maybe Elkan't should be more occupied with building a super car? Doesn't matter who is driving if the car is a rolling dumpster fire, does it?




    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    also

    Gazzetta reports that Honda will return to F1 in 2026 by supplying engines to Aston Martin!

    Official announcement is expected to come tomorrow!
    Alonso is going to have a coronary. He still has PTSD from the last time he drove a Honda powered car. With his luck Honda is going to go from a great engine to garbage once they are in the back of his car lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Maybe Elkan't should be more occupied with building a super car? Doesn't matter who is driving if the car is a rolling dumpster fire, does it?
    +1






    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Alonso is going to have a coronary. He still has PTSD from the last time he drove a Honda powered car. With his luck Honda is going to go from a great engine to garbage once they are in the back of his car lol.
    Naaaah, he's used to it. Renault [then] isn't the same Renault today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Gazzetta reports that John Elkann wants Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc for Ferrari, basically creating a super team.

    Gazzetta reports that discussions with Charles on contract renewal are currently on standby [car performance] but Charles intends to respect his current contract & is considered immovable by Elkann, who promised him a long-term renewal with the prospect of being team leader.
    also
    Gazzetta reports that Honda will return to F1 in 2026 by supplying engines to Aston Martin!

    Official announcement is expected to come tomorrow!
    So that conflicts with Hamilton joining. I can't dee Lewis agreeing to no2 driver.


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    Quote Originally Posted by racingbradley View Post
    So that conflicts with Hamilton joining. I can't dee Lewis agreeing to no2 driver.
    are you telling me that 90% of the news is garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by racingbradley View Post
    Kimi excluded. He is after all our last WDC...........back in 2007
    obviously excluding Kimi, and Vettel too who was just overrated and flattered by a Newey Rocket just like the current champion.

    It was a low quality post, Unless it was bait. In which case it was gr8 b8 m8 r8 8/8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racingbradley View Post
    So that conflicts with Hamilton joining. I can't dee Lewis agreeing to no2 driver.
    it's ALL fake news mate....just for newspapers to sell.....that's all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    are you telling me that 90% of the news is garbage?
    at least this one is....there's NO WAY taht Shamilton will ever come to FERRARI....maybe just to make sandwiches for Charles adn Carlos.....LOL

    Elkan should just take his head out of his @ ** and spend the 50 million where in needs to be spent, on actually making the car faster and more reliable, as we have 2 great drivers which can deliver if they had a better/faster car as opposed to the DONKEY they are driving now...Jeez

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    at least this one is....there's NO WAY taht Shamilton will ever come to FERRARI....maybe just to make sandwiches for Charles adn Carlos.....LOL

    Elkan should just take his head out of his @ ** and spend the 50 million where in needs to be spent, on actually making the car faster and more reliable, as we have 2 great drivers which can deliver if they had a better/faster car as opposed to the DONKEY they are driving now...Jeez
    Driver wages are not part of the budget cap, we are spending our limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Driver wages are not part of the budget cap, we are spending our limit.
    i know that, but still, i know taht this is just a rumor.....no way in heck Lewis will come drive for Ferrari

    but in all seriousness, we have two good drivers....ALL they need is a more competitive car to be able to fight for wins....and teh results will then come....

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    I have a question. If Honda supplies Red Bull with engines at a price of $X million per year, do the Honda engineers have to follow a cost cap as well? Or is RB's cost just considered to be its purchase price? Could be a nice way for RB to circumvent the budget cap if Honda's engine department is not limited to a budget cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I have a question. If Honda supplies Red Bull with engines at a price of $X million per year, do the Honda engineers have to follow a cost cap as well? Or is RB's cost just considered to be its purchase price? Could be a nice way for RB to circumvent the budget cap if Honda's engine department is not limited to a budget cap.
    I believe the Honda engines are free to whomever Honda supplies the team. I also believe Honda pays for most of the drivers salary as well when Honda engines are supplied to the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrariF60 View Post
    at least this one is....there's NO WAY taht Shamilton will ever come to FERRARI....maybe just to make sandwiches for Charles adn Carlos.....LOL

    Elkan should just take his head out of his @ ** and spend the 50 million where in needs to be spent, on actually making the car faster and more reliable, as we have 2 great drivers which can deliver if they had a better/faster car as opposed to the DONKEY they are driving now...Jeez

    Maybe with Lewis comes many Merc engineers. He could be a draw for some.high level personnel to follow him to Ferrari.
    Happened with Schumi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    Maybe with Lewis comes many Merc engineers. He could be a draw for some.high level personnel to follow him to Ferrari.
    Happened with Schumi.
    No............no........no......that's not gonna happen.
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