also the Fizzy drink guys have also messed up their strategy too, like in Spain last year, so they're not immune as some here have suggested
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also the Fizzy drink guys have also messed up their strategy too, like in Spain last year, so they're not immune as some here have suggested
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if you cover Perez immediately with Leclerc, Maxipad nurses his tyres and beats you. He stays out and goes straight to slicks.Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6
and actually that's even worse than what happened because Maxipad would have netted more than 3 points on Leclerc.
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Was'nt Sainz in 2nd place at this point??? Yes, so you cover Max with Sainz....no??
It's not how start but how you finish.
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so you're willing to let Maxipad finish in front of Leclerc as long as a Ferrari wins the race?
the way that plays out is a Ferrari 1 -3 or Ferrari 1 - 4 with Maxipad gaining even more on Leclerc than he did anyway, still far from ideal
the only viable winning strategy at that point was to stay out, how many times have we seen Shamilton just nurse wet tyres into slicks.
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Alot better than what just transpired no????
It's not how start but how you finish.
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You don't know that. Had Ferrari cover RedBulls pitstops immediately, Ferrari would have been ahead.
Did you see Jolyon Palmer's analysis I just posted???
It's not how start but how you finish.
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i'd agree, but people here seem to think we could have gotten Leclerc the win with that strat. And it's not an easy decision to make, to voluntarily let your rival beat you.
and we did cover Perez with Sainz, we just got stuck behind the moving chicane because our driver thought that you aren't allowed the pit exit line.
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don't think he said that, and they'd just leave Maxipad out, Chico was bait, there's a reason why Maxipad didn't win, because he couldn't
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You do realize Ferrari messed up 2x in this Monaco race....yes??
It's not how start but how you finish.
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So Carlos is not a team player...
This won't go down well in Maranello since NO DRIVER is ABOVE the TEAM!
Hero's come and go, but legends never die!
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AMuS
Schmidt said that Gasly and Vettel choose the perfect time to switch to intermediates.
The intermediates were at one point 4s faster, both Gasly and Vettel did everything correctly in terms of timing, but unfortunately they couldn’t overtake due to the nature of the circuit.
Schmidt said that Perez was "used" by Red Bull to get Ferrari to pit too early & at the end, it turned out very well for Checo.
Ferrari had two options with Charles: either pitting one lap after Perez (which would have guaranteed him to stay ahead of Perez) or waiting like Sainz.
1st mistake: Ferrari pitted Charles two laps after Perez, which made Red Bull’s overcut work.
2nd mistake: pitting Charles at the same time as Carlos, the gap was too small, so it was obvious that Charles would needed to wait
in the pits & the undercut attempt against Max failed.
Schmidt agreed with Ferrari that Sainz lost a potential win due to being stuck in traffic and he also defended Ferrari a bit:
Schmidt mentioned that Perez did have a bit of luck with the bad strategy of Ferrari BUT he also did two excellent outlaps on the intermediates and slick tyres
(Mercedes engineers told him that).
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...her-ricciardo/
It's not how start but how you finish.
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That goes both ways! W C C win is where it's at. Very well stated "No Driver is Above the Team!" Let Charles and Carlos race to win! Charles when the situation lends itself also has to think as a team player. And I believe he does. It goes both ways.
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And when were we at our best?That goes both ways! W C C win is where it's at.
But of course when Reubens was playing his part.
Finally, you get it. We need Carlos to be our new Reubens !
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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More like Irvine as Barrichello basically argued against team orders and deliberately made a whole spectacle of it which made Ferrari look bad, instead of it being a non-event like Perez allowing Verstappen to pass him a few races back.
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Michael in 3 years got one podium 2nd place while @ Merc when he came back. No Rubens; No wins. It's early in the season, who knows maybe it will be Charles moving over for Carlos. Monaco was real! A Rubenized Leclerc could be the answer to WCC and throw in a WDC for Carlos. Just look over @ Merc ; Lewis the GOAT of F-1 now has his team mate ahead of him. It's the team that counts.
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You want your best driver to be second driver Brembo?
Hero's come and go, but legends never die!
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I believe it's far too soon to determine which of Ferrari's drivers is the best. Look at Charles vs. Seb a 4x WDC .Given the go ahead Charles out drove Seb ; given the no team orders opportunity. Your best driver was Carlos @ Monaco!
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We all know for years that Charles is the best and the fastest of the two.
Oke he overdrives the car, so did Max a few years ago but look what he became...
Same will happen to Charles when he learns more things and gain new experience.
Carlos was better yes in 1 race. Charles was the best in the rest.
Hero's come and go, but legends never die!
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Well yeah to some extent after Ferrari messed up Leclerc's strategy by waiting 2 laps to pit Leclerc after Perez pitted and made 2 laps and went for the undercut.
But then, Ferrari messed up the 2nd pit stop for both drivers and double stacked them when the gap to Max was very narrow.
It's not how start but how you finish.
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Far from best, just less penalized by team mistakes, as you now
Always trolling!
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You really need to drink less. It's bad for your liver and apparently it ruins your brain cells.
Merc did not have a race worthy car, and Schumacher went there because he just wanted to have fun and also to organize mercendes. But you know it.
He did not go to Merc to win championships.
Brembo knows that Bottas has been reubenized, just like Checo has been reubenized.More like Irvine as Barrichello basically argued against team orders and deliberately made a whole spectacle of it which made Ferrari look bad, instead of it being a non-event like Perez allowing Verstappen to pass him a few races back.
He just closes his eyes to it.
It's ok, we know he's a troll.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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Then you're ignorant.I believe it's far too soon to determine which of Ferrari's drivers is the best.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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Yeah, does not look so good, but we`ll see
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I think you meant Know! And it's good to see you at least admit your always trolling. You even spelled it correctly! Enjoy the next race!
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Is that the level of your ultimate arguments?
So go occupy yourself on a forum of integristes in ortograph, everyone here would be better
In the meantime, at the risk of disappointing you, I’m afraid I’m gonna keep having spelling problems
Sorry Brambo
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No problem! My French is as bad as your English. Arguments is too strong a word. Reply is more the word to use.
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I know my weaknesses in English, but I would be curious to know your level of French
And then not in fact
Did you seen my present for you (post 23)?
http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/sh...#post1062861:-)
Last edited by Gilles; 7th June 2022 at 19:30.
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Sait Ferrari Driver pour gagner! Presents over controversy welcomed always!
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I regret to say that I cannot imagine what you were trying to say in French. I hope you didn’t count French in your 5 "fluent languages"
So, what did you think of this objective article that compares the levels of Carlos and Charles?
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French no . Charles over Carlos for a better chance for clean race win. But.... at the risk of giving you a headache ; please let them race each other unless a team order is truly going to help at a race. Porpoising has to stop for the sake of both drivers esp Charles . He says it's really hurting him.
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