F1 2022 Pre-Season Testing Thread

[PURE PASSION]

Andreas Seidl says that Ferrari gives a very strong impression, the car looks planted on track and good to drive, both in Barcelona and now Bahrain.

#SkyGermany #F1Testing

[PURE PASSION]

whatever they say we for sure should not believe and expect them to be 1s slower. if we are on par we should be happy my opinion. do not forget we had a lot of ground to cover especially engine wise.

we cannot be from almost one second slower to a second faster in a timeframe of 3 months.

Of course you can with brand new cars ,with brand new engines that you had almost 3 years of research

[FerrariF60]

whatever they say we for sure should not believe and expect them to be 1s slower. if we are on par we should be happy my opinion. do not forget we had a lot of ground to cover especially engine wise.

we cannot be from almost one second slower to a second faster in a timeframe of 3 months.

different rules mate, anythign is possible.....for all we know williams could have the fastest car.....we'll surely find out in Q3 where we stand aginst the others....but i am quietly optimistic....

[patrese86]

�� Charles Leclerc: "The Ferrari F1-75 behaves very similar to what came out of the simulator. The correlation is very good compared to the past."

(@diegocatalano77)

That's good.

[KimiBot]

Stroll is sandbagging

[FerrariF60]

Stroll is sandbagging

lol

[subfire91]

Of course you can with brand new cars ,with brand new engines that you had almost 3 years of research

engines are not new, they are an evolution of last year's. Taking in mind the rumors saying we lacked about 25hp last year, in order to achieve this you have to cover those, find what honda and merc gained for 2022 and find another 20-30 extra which its not so simple and easy.

additionally they have to completely screw the aero, ferrari has to completely nail it and our record shows we arent the best at that department contrary with mercs and rbs.

to summarize things i expect them to be strong, from what we see we will be strong, now comes Bahrain Q3 we will all know which one will be on top

[aroutis]

1. Even if Merc has issues, they will eventually solve them
2. I accept that they sandbagging. By 1.8 seconds from Ferrari and 2+ from AT?

I think they will have a super diva. Let's see.

Hats off to Mercedes.
They have succeeded to twist our mindsets into believing they 're unable to flop.

[aroutis]

Merc has destroyed the competition for 8 years in a row. Is it wrong to assume they might still know what they are doing? Also, I had clarified my comment in another post; “best” was referring to past solutions. Yes, you are correct to say that when speaking of this year no one knows what best is yet. I think our car is beautiful and purposeful. Ferrari has put a lot of work into these new regulations and I am optimistic that we will have a good year.

Actually yes, it's DEAD wrong to assume this.
New regulations.

[PURE PASSION]

engines are not new, they are an evolution of last year's. Taking in mind the rumors saying we lacked about 25hp last year, in order to achieve this you have to cover those, find what honda and merc gained for 2022 and find another 20-30 extra which its not so simple and easy.

additionally they have to completely screw the aero, ferrari has to completely nail it and our record shows we arent the best at that department contrary with mercs and rbs.

to summarize things i expect them to be strong, from what we see we will be strong, now comes Bahrain Q3 we will all know which one will be on top

The ice is completely new,at least you have the freedom to design a completely new . I'm saying that under those new rules EVERY team is capable to design/deliver the fastest car. Forget what was the hierarchy until last year. There's no continuation this year!!!

[Gilles]

�� Charles Leclerc: "The Ferrari F1-75 behaves very similar to what came out of the simulator. The correlation is very good compared to the past."

(@diegocatalano77)

Regardless of the times, it’s good news

[aroutis]

engines are not new, they are an evolution of last year's. Taking in mind the rumors saying we lacked about 25hp last year, in order to achieve this you have to cover those, find what honda and merc gained for 2022 and find another 20-30 extra which its not so simple and easy.

additionally they have to completely screw the aero, ferrari has to completely nail it and our record shows we arent the best at that department contrary with mercs and rbs.

to summarize things i expect them to be strong, from what we see we will be strong, now comes Bahrain Q3 we will all know which one will be on top

And then you need to take into consideration, what Ferrari has or has not done with their engines (noone knows), what they have done with Shell in terms with the biofuels , and what the rest have done.
Really, everything is a big unknown. And just thinking that the status of the engines is same with last year is not a certainty.

As for the aero, we've been working on the new rules for two to 3 years, Rorry Byrne has been in a consult rule for specifically this, we sacrificed virtually two years over this and only a blind as a bat person cannot see there's work that's been done.

Really I understand pessimism but then if someone wants to only see black, might as well give up before the start of the season.

[Gilles]

engines are not new, they are an evolution of last year's. Taking in mind the rumors saying we lacked about 25hp last year, in order to achieve this you have to cover those, find what honda and merc gained for 2022 and find another 20-30 extra which its not so simple and easy.

additionally they have to completely screw the aero, ferrari has to completely nail it and our record shows we arent the best at that department contrary with mercs and rbs.

to summarize things i expect them to be strong, from what we see we will be strong, now comes Bahrain Q3 we will all know which one will be on top

To hear you in is not necessary to wait, Ferrari would be behind
But this is anything but proven
The horses you count are well announced
For the rest, we’ll see

[arcabe]

Maclaren stopped...red flag....and it seems Brundle is talking positive of Ferrari.

[Tony]

Carlos' comments are interesting however. He says Ferrari sees what they are doing on the GPS and he prefaced that by saying they show up every year, make comments that others are in front and then proceed to destroy the field. Is he implying that Ferrari can already see that the Mercedes is faster?

[ferrari1.8t]

Actually yes, it's DEAD wrong to assume this.
New regulations.

Bodywork wise yes, but the engines are still an evolution from the previous regulations.

[patrese86]

Carlos' comments are interesting however. He says Ferrari sees what they are doing on the GPS and he prefaced that by saying they show up every year, make comments that others are in front and then proceed to destroy the field. Is he implying that Ferrari can already see that the Mercedes is faster?

Certainly implying they are sandbagging massively. I remember a few years ago at testing Mercedes could see us on the GPS not pushing down the back straight, in fact I'm sure we were intentionally lifting. Also when Red Bull could see Mercedes getting a huge kick of acceleration in zandvoort on the GPS. Also when we got an extra kick halfway down the straights a few seasons back, Mercedes could see it on the GPS

[Aziz]

Carlos' comments are interesting however. He says Ferrari sees what they are doing on the GPS and he prefaced that by saying they show up every year, make comments that others are in front and then proceed to destroy the field. Is he implying that Ferrari can already see that the Mercedes is faster?

That is how I understud it

[patrese86]

That porpoising is ridiculous. You can say all you want about teams holding back but the minute they look for more performance the cars just bounce everywhere.

[subfire91]

And then you need to take into consideration, what Ferrari has or has not done with their engines (noone knows), what they have done with Shell in terms with the biofuels , and what the rest have done.
Really, everything is a big unknown. And just thinking that the status of the engines is same with last year is not a certainty.

As for the aero, we've been working on the new rules for two to 3 years, Rorry Byrne has been in a consult rule for specifically this, we sacrificed virtually two years over this and only a blind as a bat person cannot see there's work that's been done.

Really I understand pessimism but then if someone wants to only see black, might as well give up before the start of the season.

To hear you in is not necessary to wait, Ferrari would be behind
But this is anything but proven
The horses you count are well announced
For the rest, we’ll see

im not pessimistic, on the contrary im relatively pessimistic watching the pre season testing and various analysis from f1 experts.

what im saying is that i dont expect them not to be strong or us to be 1s faster

[Gilles]

im not pessimistic, on the contrary im relatively pessimistic watching the pre season testing and various analysis from f1 experts.

what im saying is that i dont expect them not to be strong or us to be 1s faster

Ok
What we know is that should be ok on the engine side (if Mercedes and Honda are only making the expected progress), and close a bit, or a lot on the châssis side

[PURE PASSION]

im not pessimistic, on the contrary im relatively pessimistic watching the pre season testing and various analysis from f1 experts.

what im saying is that i dont expect them not to be strong or us to be 1s faster

Believe me , NOONE DOES!!!!

[Gilles]

That is how I understud it

Nobody knows their rhythm, but everyone sees that they are hiding it, especially with GPS data

[458 Italia]

It's really frustrating that the cameras aren't showing the Ferrari when it's out.

[PURE PASSION]

Sainz #F175

outlap (C3)
1: 39.044
1: 39.636
1: 40.108
1: 39.928
1: 40.132
1: 40.481
1: 40.329
1: 40.516
1: 41.307
1: 41.218
1: 40.678
1: 40.860
1: 41.118
1: 41.291
1: 41.395
1: 42.118
1: 42.412
1: 45.524 inlap
box

#Day5 #PM #F1Testing
#F1 @ScuderiaFerrari

I think it's a good one , and a bit steady !!

[tifosi1993]

Carlos is doing a race-sim. His first stint

Outlap (C3)
1:39.044
1:39.636
1:40.108
1:39.928
1:40.132
1:40.481
1:40.329
1:40.516
1:41.307
1:41.218
1:40.678
1:40.860
1:41.118
1:41.291
1:41.395
1:42.118
1:42.412
Pits

[tifosi1993]

C2 stint (before the red flag)

Outlap
1:38.459
1:38.503
1:38.760
1:38.903

[PURE PASSION]

C2 stint (before the red flag)

Outlap
1:38.459
1:38.503
1:38.760
1:38.903

Nice !!!!!

[tifosi1993]

[patrese86]

Another positive day for the Scuderia!