you're right, i completely forgot about Monaco, we definitely had the faster race car, fair play on that one.
idk about Baku, i'm more inclined to say that was more so because street circuits tend to favor the superior race car driver...
you're right about Saudi Arabia, it was unlucky VSC timing, ( which the pundits seemed oblivious to ), and Red Bull used their pit wall connections just like they did in Abu Dhabi 2021, to make sure a yellow flag prevented any fight back from Charles
maybe you're right. if we had a capable race car in 11/22 races this year?? and we start next year with 15-30bhp off the bat? it seems like the right direction, and very encouraging for next year.
For sure ! Charles needs all the help he can get. Max will have Sergio and Lewis will fight for his 8th WDC every race as long as the likes of MASSI is not involved. But..Santander pushing for Carlos will be a tough going. Fan wise Ferrari WCC either way will be great!!! It's never been 5 equally great drivers going for the titles !
Mattia Binotto:
“We have been focusing on next year’s car for some time.”
“We stopped developing the 2022 car very early, while Mercedes brought upgrades in Austin and Mexico as well. It’s not surprising that they have improved.”
For how many seasons will he say like this ….
Would have been much better to sacrifice 2023 car development so we could stay 2nd this year.
Then next season these members above could complain about why we did that.
Forza Ferrari
We started 1st & slowly went down to 2nd. Now we are 3rd fastest. Is this right graph?
Or
Mercs started as 3rd fastest & then to 2nd. Now being to compete for the win. Is this right graph?
RB started 2nd fastest & developed their in season to become WC.
Both teams didnt sacrifice their car development for this season to give themselves as chance for next year.
I am quite surprised by these comments from you.
We should defend the team thats not a problem, but there is limit for everything. If we defend blindly that doesnt make sense.
I am not so sure we started with the quickest car....maybe the Red Bull DNF's gives such an illusion but they were not slow.
Merc have now caught Red Bull as well so not sure why you are saying RB are still heavily developing this years car.....Merc had such gains to make that it's a bit easier to find chunks of time rather than tenths, but thats always been the case in this sport nothing much new or dramatic about it and if others stand still off course they will catch.
Forza Ferrari
Where there is smoke...
https://twitter.com/FanaticsFerrari/...Uhp4_BYaA&s=19
According to Leo Turrini, a long-time close Ferrari journalist, Binotto's position could be at risk.
Possible replacements are being discussed, due to errors in reliability and strategy, which led to sudden collapse of title hopes, and a disturbed relationship with Leclerc.
Turrini put forward two possible replacements:
- Frederic Vasseur, current team principal of Alfa Romeo Sauber, Leclerc's first team principal and close friends with Nicholas Todt, Leclerc's manager
- Antonello Coletta, Ferrari's GT racing manager
I hope it’s not true. Would like to give Binotto one more chance that is for next season.
#AMus
Ferrari also shifted the focus and resources on the 2023 car directly after the summer break. The problems are set to be identified and to be fixed. Ferrari needs a more efficient car and needs to return to stable downforce in the corners. That was the case at the beginning of the season. But with the floor upgrades in the first half of the season, Ferrari took a wrong turn somewhere. The working window narrowed. Certainly Ferrari was also weakened by the stricter rules on floor flex and plann wear that have been in place since the Belgian GP. And the problems with the engine valves, which led to reduced mileage and grid penalties.
#AMUs Regarding the lack of upgrades, Binotto said that they exhausted the budget cap. The technical department could not introduce solutions:
"This is not a choice we made voluntarily. We simply ran out of money. We can't afford the extra costs for the production of the parts"
Too much money spent on drivers crashing cars, engine fire on Carlos that did a lot of damage AND OF COURSE upgrades that never worked A( I call them downgrades as Ferrari is used to this scenario for so many years) after the summer break
Frankly I have very little faith for 2023.....I personally think red bull will be very strong from the get go, Merc, well their car seems to have developed very well towards the end of this year and I’m sure they’ll be up there fighting for wins next year
Where’s Ferrari gonna be.....tell yiu all where....worrying about other teams and their budget caps, SAD BUT TRUE....boy oh boy do I miss Sergio Marchione, he would have NOT have accepted all that mid year rule changes but Elkan seems to only worry about the profits Ferrari make each quarter from road cars sales.....he’s ok with 2nd or 3rd in WCC.....
That’s not a true leader....THAT IS PATHETIC AND MEDIOCRITY IF YUU ASK ME
The most rounded overall, and it gave hope to all of us “could this be the end of the curse?”. Unfortunately, poor management comes to play, as usual (confusing calls, awkward strategy, slow pit, some weird technical gremlins, etc), and ends up in the familiar situation like this year.
That excuse Binotto is using (focusing on next year etc) has been heard too many times. Why can other teams improve over the seasons and we can’t?? He needs to get creative, like all quality team bosses do.
It is quite obvious to me , that Ferrari stopped development work for months now.
Other teams catching , RB stretching out.. I dont think we have ever introduced a Real Major update on this car in this year.
Pretty much same car. I bet if we get the first F1-75 ( the car raced on Bahrain track) on the Interlagos. We may found similar pace.
Ferrari ran out of money to develop the F1-75 due to the budget cap towards the end of the 2022 season.
Jeeeeezus......these guys are such boy scouts!
It's not how start but how you finish.
Quite honestly I am tired of Binotto.
He does not seem to understand priorities, he wants to do things WAY too much his way, jeopardising the team, Charles and most of all, the brand.
It's not HIS team, it's Scuderia Ferrari.
He had his time but he did not deliver at the end of the day.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
He may have delivered as far as the F1-75 went at the beginning of the season but the development was practically non-existent and the TD39 made it even worse. Add to that the strategic errors, reliability and occasional driver mistakes, and the fact that Binotto said no changes are needed, surely that proves that his role as Team Principal has not been successful. It also seems that there is still no solution to the reliability concerns of our engine/turbo installation, so even on a technological level, we are not able to match RB or Mercedes. I don't think he should be sacked but Ferrari desperately needs a TP who is pro-active, firm and persuasive with the FIA, which seems alien to Mattia's thinking.
Rumours are getting stronger and louder today. I would like stability at Ferrari like Merc and RedBull have done for years, however change is needed. Primarily with the strategy team, pit stop crew and race management. Binotto seems like a solid engineer, but not team principal material. Hopefully he sticks with the team because he did build a good car. With our luck he will go to a rival team and build a monster…let’s see how this all plays out. Not sure I like Fred Vasseur as his replacement though.
~FORZA FERRARI~
Rumours are it’s a done deal starting in January. Fred will replace Binotto…
https://twitter.com/vetteleclerc/sta...534220803?s=21
https://twitter.com/formularacers_/s...713888258?s=21
https://twitter.com/fanaticsferrari/...963860480?s=21
~FORZA FERRARI~
Thoughts on Frederic Vasseur?
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