Ferrari F1-75 Discussion Thread

[jgonzalesm6]

I want clarification on how mclaren can race an illegal car in 2008, that was undoubtedly influenced by all the data they had on Ferrari. In other words, shut the hell up mclaren. You’re the last team that should have any “concerns” about what Ferrari are doing.

They got fined $100 million USD for that ordeal. Nonetheless, Mclaren of 2008 is not the same Mclaren of 2022. Every F1 team wants clarification from the other F1 team.....that has been a lifelong understanding with the teams and the FIA.

[Liscia]

Who ever owns McLaren also owns that as part of their history and heritage.
Sorry but that's a permanent stain that cannot be removed no matter how
clean an outfit it has become.Same goes for Ferrari's transgressions but
people in glass houses and those who first cast stones...........

[SFTifoso]

To this day I cannot look at Ron Dennis without getting angry; mostly because of how Massa got screwed. He was the best in a legal car. But no we had to witness that disgusting celebration by Dennis and 2-chainz; like they actually were better than Ferrari. So whenever mclaren chirps at Ferrari is like get the hell outta here. Go work on the build quality of your crap road cars mclaren… with Nissan engines that you never want to show.

They’re whole 2007-2008 programs should’ve been banned for a combined 12 months with no development. Shut down everything for 12 months.

[Brembo]

They got fined $100 million USD for that ordeal. Nonetheless, Mclaren of 2008 is not the same Mclaren of 2022. Every F1 team wants clarification from the other F1 team.....that has been a lifelong understanding with the teams and the FIA.

Shumy with traction control @ Benetton ! Ayrton was really at a disadvantage .

[nani_s23]

Ferrari brought an unloaded rear wing to Miami, but in fact did not use it.

They instead used the 'spoon' profile, loaded rear wing of Imola. This was due to the low grip, slippery track surface.

Ferrari sacrificed a bit of top speed for better tyre wear in the race.

@FanaticsFerrari

[SFTifoso]

Ferrari brought an unloaded rear wing to Miami, but in fact did not use it.

They instead used the 'spoon' profile, loaded rear wing of Imola. This was due to the low grip, slippery track surface.

Ferrari sacrificed a bit of top speed for better tyre wear in the race.

@FanaticsFerrari

And unlike Saudi Arabia higher downforce seems to be the right choice for the state this track is in.

[gump1480]

What is a bit worrying is why we lost out in the twisty bits of the track which was our strength !! Ves could easily follow Lec in traction zone but Lec couldn't. Whatever the track, we our chewing our tires (exception of Australia).

[nani_s23]

What is a bit worrying is why we lost out in the twisty bits of the track which was our strength !! Ves could easily follow Lec in traction zone but Lec couldn't. Whatever the track, we our chewing our tires (exception of Australia).

RB did bring upgrades to last couple of races specifically in IMOLA. It worked for them. Since then they found good race pace & better tyre management. Let’s see how it goes around in Barcelona.

[Cavallino]

What is a bit worrying is why we lost out in the twisty bits of the track which was our strength !! Ves could easily follow Lec in traction zone but Lec couldn't. Whatever the track, we our chewing our tires (exception of Australia).

where are people seeing this, Ferrari was fastest in those sectors in quali. I will concede that the advantage was not so great on mediums in race conditions.

[nani_s23]

#AMus: reports that Ferrari were allowed to modify the PU (PU2) because of a problem with reliability. PU1 will only get used on Friday now. Ferrari will introduce the new hybrid system with PU3.

At Ferrari, the plan is to combine larger upgrade packages together. The upgrades get mounted on the car once it is certain that they will bring progress.

[Gilles]

Well, we haven't seen the update on the electrical side...
Nugnes was trolling, once more
We have not seen this new rear wing either, except for an already known wing without its gurney flap
As I predicted after Melbourne, we're a bit behind RB now
Nothing serious considering the money that RB spent compared to us
One thing is that Charles missed 7 points at Imola, sad, i think he knows that
Now we are all waiting for the Spainish update
I'm hoping for at least a 4 tenths improvement, less would be really disappointing
And even a little more would be nice

[SFTifoso]

Yes! I want us to be absolutely clear from the Red Bulls. Like we set pole on our first try and then it’s a battle between our drivers for the second try.

[racingbradley]

Can someone help here isee Charles is credited with 18 points but didn't he get pole? does that not merit 19 points?

[Greig]

No points for pole.

[racingbradley]

Thanks Greg

[nani_s23]

Ferrari on the attack in Barcelona with a package that can be worth 3 tenths. Not only aerodynamic innovations, however "not too flashy yet significant" but also lightening of the F1-75. More details in the article

https://www.formu1a.uno/ferrari-alla...lere-3-decimi/

[FerrariF60]

Ferrari on the attack in Barcelona with a package that can be worth 3 tenths. Not only aerodynamic innovations, however "not too flashy yet significant" but also lightening of the F1-75. More details in the article

https://www.formu1a.uno/ferrari-alla...lere-3-decimi/

3 tenths????? lets hope is more like HALF a second.....so that we can be clear of red bull/fish lips by quite some margin

[nani_s23]

3 tenths????? lets hope is more like HALF a second.....so that we can be clear of red bull/fish lips by quite some margin

.3ths alone for the aero package & on weight reduction there might be another significant improvement which was mentioned in above article. Let’s hope we can pull off .4ths at least before ERS For PU3 comes into picture for 2nd half of the season.

[RossTheBoss]

Ferrari on the attack in Barcelona with a package that can be worth 3 tenths. Not only aerodynamic innovations, however "not too flashy yet significant" but also lightening of the F1-75. More details in the article

https://www.formu1a.uno/ferrari-alla...lere-3-decimi/

Italian media has been very gossip like, and most of the rumors have turned to be just that. They're simply unreliable. The floor was supposed to come in Imola, rear wing in Miami, ERS in Miami, and they've had to back track constantly.

If it isn't from the team or a mainstream English source, I'd ignore it.

Ferrari have to solve their mild porpoising problem. They lose performance down the end of the straight and it effects their top speed. If they can reduce it near zero with an upgrade package, there's no telling how much time that will give the team, and the setup windows it could open. Anyone telling you it's one number or the other is just talking crap.

[Ferrarichamp]

didn't Binotto say RB are currently 0.2sec ahead of us? (I could be wrong there).
But RB will also bring something to Barcelona I think, so let's say they gain another tenth, we need 4 tenths minimum to be ahead, maybe even half a second, which seems a lot

[djmorin27]

2 tenths ahead and it was said rb won't have anything big til late summer

[PURE PASSION]

Guys ,these things cant calculated on pure mathematics (like ,Binotto said we are 0.2 bahind ,now we will gain 0.3 so we will be only 0.1 in front so its ot enough !!) We will see on track and race by race in different conditions how the updates will perform. Things can change radically even from 1 day to another !! Look at tgis weekend, we had huge advantage all weekend ad in Q in traction zones AND come Sunday in the race RBR sudenly took this advantage from us !!!! So stop look things short-sighted and absotute !!!
we might be 0.5 s ahead in Barcelone and be the fastest in S3 ,so everybody will say that we will destroy them in Monaco and then all of us might be surprised in a bad way !!!

[SilverSpeed]

Guys ,these things cant calculated on pure mathematics (like ,Binotto said we are 0.2 bahind ,now we will gain 0.3 so we will be only 0.1 in front so its ot enough !!) We will see on track and race by race in different conditions how the updates will perform. Things can change radically even from 1 day to another !! Look at tgis weekend, we had huge advantage all weekend ad in Q in traction zones AND come Sunday in the race RBR sudenly took this advantage from us !!!! So stop look things short-sighted and absotute !!!
we might be 0.5 s ahead in Barcelone and be the fastest in S3 ,so everybody will say that we will destroy them in Monaco and then all of us might be surprised in a bad way !!!

[Ferrarichamp]

Guys ,these things cant calculated on pure mathematics (like ,Binotto said we are 0.2 bahind ,now we will gain 0.3 so we will be only 0.1 in front so its ot enough !!) We will see on track and race by race in different conditions how the updates will perform. Things can change radically even from 1 day to another !! Look at tgis weekend, we had huge advantage all weekend ad in Q in traction zones AND come Sunday in the race RBR sudenly took this advantage from us !!!! So stop look things short-sighted and absotute !!!
we might be 0.5 s ahead in Barcelone and be the fastest in S3 ,so everybody will say that we will destroy them in Monaco and then all of us might be surprised in a bad way !!!

There's nothing wrong with trying to predict who will be ahead in the future. Predictions can be right or wrong, it's not a crime. You might even say it's a bit of fun.
I don't understand why this offends you.

[phsyklone]

Interesting article. Redbull have gained 1 second from Bahrain ���� testing till now with all the updates and Ferrari have gain 0.4 tenths from just understanding the car.

https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-f1-...by-one-second/

[tifosi1993]

3 tenths????? lets hope is more like HALF a second.....so that we can be clear of red bull/fish lips by quite some margin

3 tenths improvement isn't a lap time parameter. It's what the engineers see in the CFD and wind tunnels. Neither the CFD nor the wind tunnel can simulate real life track data, but they can generate downforce "points". And F1 engineers measure those points in terms of actual lap time gains. Each team measures these points differently. So let's say,

Ferrari considers 5 points downforce increase = 1 tenth improvement. So, 3 tenths improvement = 15 points downforce increase.

In real life, a mere 3 tenths improvement is actually quite a big improvement. As an example, in Singapore 2019, Ferrari introduced an aero upgrade package that was only providing a mere 2 tenths improvement. But the actual lap time gain was big, as proven by Charles taking an unexpected pole and Ferrari scoring an 1-2 victory.

[tifosi1993]

What is a bit worrying is why we lost out in the twisty bits of the track which was our strength !! Ves could easily follow Lec in traction zone but Lec couldn't. Whatever the track, we our chewing our tires (exception of Australia).

But the track conditions changed dramatically during the race day. Engineers always try to adapt the setup with track evolution. Pretty sure Ferrari did the same thing. The F1-75 was the fastest car in the twisty bits during qualifying, as evident by Charles setting the fastest S2 time.

But the rain before the race day washed up all the rubber that was laid down during FPs and qualifying and the temperature was quite cool during the race. The car was graining the medium front left but on hards, the pace was equal to the RB. So who knows what might have happened had the conditions not been changed on Sunday.

[PURE PASSION]

But the track conditions changed dramatically during the race day. Engineers always try to adapt the setup with track evolution. Pretty sure Ferrari did the same thing. The F1-75 was the fastest car in the twisty bits during qualifying, as evident by Charles setting the fastest S2 time.

But the rain before the race day washed up all the rubber that was laid down during FPs and qualifying and the temperature was quite cool during the race. The car was graining the medium front left but on hards, the pace was equal to the RB. So who knows what might have happened had the conditions not been changed on Sunday.

Some say up to 18° drop on track temperature

[jgonzalesm6]

RedBull gains on the straights.....since Bahrain.

Ferrari gains somewhat on the curves.....since Bahrain.

Ferrari has been lacking straight line speed to cover RedBull......simple

[paolo lalli]

Mercedes possibly going for new design for Spain and with it goes the budget cap very very risky but do they have any real choice because the current concept is a total handful and will not win a race, unless the top 4 cars crash out in a race.5th and 6th at the moment.