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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    That's why Wolff has had concerning issues with Binotto regarding this very issue.....like Wolff is fed up with Binotto's excuses for why Ferrari is lacking.
    Wolf can manage his own team thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    Another thing I want to point out,

    Red Bull isn't faster than last year. And Merc with DAS and all their other "innovations" are only 3 tenths faster than they were last year.

    Is it possible that the engine clamp down has effected all teams, but Ferrari the most?
    Red Bull said they had wrongly set up the car and that cost them performance in qualifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    It's the quicker car though. And just say we're fixing the SF1000, it'll be ready for Hungary.

    There must be a rule against it. Because then we would effectively have a car for low downforce tracks and a car for high downforce tracks.

    Last year's was quicker BEFORE the FIA installed the extra fuel flow sensor on the same track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Well, Mclaren and Racing Point are faster than last year and Bottas set a new lap record during quali.

    Ferrari was affected since the FIA installed the extra fuel flow sensor last year....the clampdown or engine freeze just prolongs Ferrari's engine problem.
    Well if the engine was legal, a 100 fuel flow sensors wouldn't have mattered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    Red Bull said they had wrongly set up the car and that cost them performance in qualifying.
    True, and Max went with the harder compound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Wolf can manage his own team thank you.
    Yes, of course. I could give a rat's **** what Wolff says or thinks.
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Last year's was quicker BEFORE the FIA installed the extra fuel flow sensor on the same track.
    True, but the FIA directive came out at U.S. last year? Seems we are even slower than we were then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    It's the quicker car though. And just say we're fixing the SF1000, it'll be ready for Hungary.

    There must be a rule against it. Because then we would effectively have a car for low downforce tracks and a car for high downforce tracks.
    The problem is the car had to be homologated from the very first race in Austria .Basically being the car of the next two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTRSMAD View Post
    The problem is the car had to be homologated from the very first race in Austria .Basically being the car of the next two years.
    yeah, there has to be a reason you can't bring it. So maybe it is just a draggy car. No doubt, the engine is lacking too, certainly compared to when we had our "trick".

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    Well they did complete investigation on Ferrari's power unit, they should also do full investigation on other power units too. Others could be using "tricks" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    Well they did complete investigation on Ferrari's power unit, they should also do full investigation on other power units too. Others could be using "tricks" as well.
    Crazy talk. :)

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    Also just our luck. We have a high downforce car, and this season the first 5/6 races are low downforce tracks.

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    Funny how the critical issue with the kerbs went away for Merc after the SC periods.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Funny how the critical issue with the kerbs went away for Merc after the SC periods.....
    They have to think up some imaginary problem to keep the race ‘interesting’ and so they can say the won despite the issues.


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    A bit of luck for a change and a cool head from Charles, he saved the day for Ferrari with an unexpected P2 after some great overtakes. Seb in trouble again and we've seen it too often, but good to see GIO getting a couple of points on the board. Updates can't come quick enough but can it solve the power deficit? I'll accept today's result as a huge bonus anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino View Post
    True, but the FIA directive came out at U.S. last year? Seems we are even slower than we were then.
    There were more limits put into place after that and during winter. Also the Alfa is faster on straights probably because it has no downforce to slow it down. Afterall even with higher top speed it is probably the slowest team of them all.

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    Vettel said he's happy he spun only once. I believe him this time. The car looks so unstable, similar with F14T.

    https://streamable.com/769gbq

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisepie View Post
    A bit of luck for a change and a cool head from Charles, he saved the day for Ferrari with an unexpected P2 after some great overtakes. Seb in trouble again and we've seen it too often, but good to see GIO getting a couple of points on the board. Updates can't come quick enough but can it solve the power deficit? I'll accept today's result as a huge bonus anyway.
    This time Seb is beaming with joy as he only spun the car once. If you read his post race comments, you would assume that he probably threw a party and invited Mattia and Leclerc to celebrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Vettel said he's happy he spun only once. I believe him this time. The car looks so unstable, similar with F14T.

    https://streamable.com/769gbq

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    [it.motorsport]

    Binotto: "We lost performance in the engine!"
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinmay View Post
    This time Seb is beaming with joy as he only spun the car once. If you read his post race comments, you would assume that he probably threw a party and invited Mattia and Leclerc to celebrate.

    To be honest he said that because the car was very hard to drive today, check the video i posted above. Nevertheless the spun was his error 100%. There was no space for that dive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    [it.motorsport]

    Binotto: "We lost performance in the engine!"
    Pretty much. He said both aero and engine are bad in his interview

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    To be honest he said that because the car was very hard to drive today, check the video i posted above. Nevertheless the spun was his error 100%. There was no space for that dive.
    Yeah, hopefully better setup next week.

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    Even Lec was struggling with car, but somehow he managed put the car on track. But vettel isn’t.
    Vettel was locking up heavily at that turn when Ric was chasing him.

    Vettel’s mistakes are due to miscalculation, when to attack & defend.
    His crucial victories are covered by his mistakes. Sadly he doesn’t have a seat next year.
    Bottas cementing his place in that Mercs, unless Bottas beats Ham. I don’t see a change in that Mercs camp.

    Just like nico, vettel should also retire.

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    Sebs onboard having drama at the steering wheel when entering and exiting the corners....

    https://twitter.com/deadlinex/status...25624719392768
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    After closely following the sector timings and speed throughout the race, to me, it's quite clear that we are lacking the Q3 mode. The speed in sector 1 was pretty reasonable, Leclerc was keeping up with Mclaren in sector 1 which was the fastest car in that sector throughout the race. Pace in the sector 2 and 3 was quite good.

    Also pace with the softer compound was a bit of problem, but the car was quite good with hards and mediums on Leclerc's hand. He was pretty much a monster in the last stint.
    Vettel struggled the entire race, even after overtaking Stroll, his pace on the mediums was quite poor.

    The upcoming upgrade has to be big, because right now we need 7-8 tenths/lap worth of improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Sebs onboard having drama at the steering wheel when entering and exiting the corners....

    https://twitter.com/deadlinex/status...25624719392768
    I’m not able to see this video....

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    https://twitter.com/deadlinex/status...719392768?s=21

    Vettel’s car.... this is holly crap....!!


    https://twitter.com/gianludale27/sta...784675329?s=21

    Where’s the car going

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    So stoked we could get P2. Lec is awesome!!!!!!!!
    Sure, luck played a huge part in that, but the boy drover very well. The move on perez was fantastic!
    Not sure if we can improve by next weekend, but anything can happen. Mercs will still have the curbs issue. Merc engine cars actually. so fingers crossed.

    Seb is making the spin his signature move now! Glad for once Ferrari chose the right driver to back.

    And i know this will be unpopular, but i think Hams punishment was unfair. Albon did a bonehead move into him. It wasnt entirely hamiltons fault.
    Though perez move on Nando was actually worth the penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormsearcher View Post
    So stoked we could get P2. Lec is awesome!!!!!!!!
    Sure, luck played a huge part in that, but the boy drover very well. The move on perez was fantastic!
    Not sure if we can improve by next weekend, but anything can happen. Mercs will still have the curbs issue. Merc engine cars actually. so fingers crossed.

    Seb is making the spin his signature move now! Glad for once Ferrari chose the right driver to back.

    And i know this will be unpopular, but i think Hams punishment was unfair. Albon did a bonehead move into him. It wasnt entirely hamiltons fault.
    Though perez move on Nando was actually worth the penalty.
    Albon's 50% car was ahead of Hamilton and Hamilton still wanted to push him in the gravel. He got away very lightly with a mere 5 second penalty despite destroying Albon's podium place.

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