It was a good race by hamilton but just good. Anyone can pass the cars that are not top 3(ex Kimi did it also) ... As for the top 3 teams, lewis never passed a single one of them that race. A series of luck, good judgement by the pit crew, bad judgement by other's pit crew(Kimi, Max) and personal mistakes by others(Seb) and another call from own team(a faster Bottas to stand down) . So lewis just had decent pace and passed much slower cars in that race... He is not in a league of his own like his fans make him out to be, that's all i am saying.
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Quite agree, once again the stars were aligned for HAM and we lost out, OK so Seb made a mistake and I'm still not 100% convinced we would have won in Germany given the advancing progress of the Mercs and the weather conditions, but at least Seb could have scored some points instead of none.
OK, good luck, good pit crew judgement and horrible team orders ruin any drivers deserving praise for a win. Actually the driver should be ashamed of himself for winning. Even worse would be winning in a top car. Seb's mistake was not Lewis" fault. I did want Bottas to win that race , but team Merc did a Ferrari 1,2 on him. Too bad.
1) Alonso
2) Hamilton
3) Vettel
4) Ric
5) Max
6) Leclerc
1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Ricc
4. Max
5. Vettel
6. Kimi
7. LeClerc
8. Gasly
9. Ocon
10. Bottas
Silently, like a shadow
Alonso
Hamilton
Verstappen
Ricciardo
Hulkenberg
Vettel
Bottas
Raikkonen
Ocon
Perez
Special mention to Leclerc but he needs to show some skill in wet conditions first
Undoubtedly Hamilton is numero uno. Then the rest. Driving, arguably, the best car which he helped developed, he produces pole winning laps, makes the least amount of mistakes and of course is leading the championship.
There, I said it. It’s with great pain that I have to accept that 2018 may go their way.
For me Hamilton is the best hands down. Never had No1 status his whole career unlike Vettel and Alonso, second Max/Ricciardo
1. Hamilton
2. Verstappen
3. Ricciardo
4. Alonso/Räïkönen
5. Vettel
Stop drinking that hamilton cool aid man. If you love him that much, go talk about those dreamy eyes, or hot chainz, or whatever you like about him, on a forum dedicated to him. I can guarantee you, you will no have to many followers here. Most people on the forum dislike him but have the clear mind to see he is a good driver. He has not done himself any favors by speaking of Ferrari's INTENTIONALLY taking him out, not taking penalties when others have gotten them for significantly less and somehow, somehow he still moans about it. Neutrals have seen it too, on other forums, and I can tell you they did not like what they saw. The only people who buy into his "greatness" are silly fanboys, most of them from UK and the USA. You are preaching to the wrong crowd my friend
1. Hamilton and Vettel - It is not coincidence that they've both won 4 WDCs and are dominant two drivers in top 2 teams
3. Bottas - I am biased, I agree. But his qualifying performances against Hamilton have been great so far. He is reliable wingman and a great asset to Mercedes. That's why I hoped that he would join Ferrari after Kimi but it is not going happen.
4. Verstappen - Future champion and so fast. Too hot headed at the moment but for pure talent and raw speed he is among the best if not the best.
5. Räikkönen - A living legend. Have been pretty solid with outdated engine. The car suits him well.
6-10 in no particular order. Alonso, LeClerc, Ricciardo, Ocon, Perez
Alonso is leaving the F1 while still in his prime. There is reason for that and because of that I can' t rate him as a top 5 driver.
Ricciardo is not leaving but the reason is bit similar. He side stepped from winning team to Renault. I think he couldn't stand the heat by losing in terms of pure speed against Verstappen.
LeClerc is a future champion, a Ferrari champion for sure. It is hard to judge how good he really is because of the mediocre teammate Ericsson and because of the leap Sauber have made.
Ocon is such a promising driver as well. He is driving very well against Perez who I rank highly as well. Great podiums (8) on previous seasons with Sauber and Force India. For example former teammate Hulkenberg has none so far despite the long career.
both hamilton and vettel havent been the best this year imo
Vettel - made way too many mistakes and go too many penalties(some are unfair)
Hamilton - had too many weekends when hes been off the pace, most of his good results this year have been the misfortune of others
not sure who is #1 for me but its not the 4 time champs
Interviewer: “The helmet has a special meaning for many drivers. How important is it to you?”
Kimi: “It protects my head.”
Shut your horse mouth and don't even dare talking about penalties cause Vettel had escaped too many or a very light penalty. Well Massa was ordered to destroy Hamilton's race on purpose in Singapore 2011 so i can image Hamilton saying it and Hamilton is way greater than Vettel who had it easy with his No1 status and ''easy'' teammates compared to Hamilton so don't even go there.
seems like this place loves hamilton and hates vettel now lol wow, wonder how it would be if it didnt rain last two weekends tbh
hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)
https://www.crash.net/f1/news/903567...ronment-horner
Vettel acts as a rock in Ferrari's high-pressure environment – Horner
“I think the pressure is probably a bit different at Ferrari. I think at Red Bull it was arguably a more relaxed atmosphere, he hasn’t got the nations hopes resting on his shoulders," Horner explained.
“Ferrari obviously is a different beast to operate within, [it’s] fear based and a very different environment from the outside looking in, and you can see Sebastian, he carries that pressure. He’s very much a rock within that team.”
Vettel racked up 38 victories and claimed four consecutive world championships during his Red Bull tenure, leading Horner to praise his ability, labelling him as the best driver to ever race for the Milton Keynes squad.
hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)
And how many did he had before 2014? Only a handful. Even Rosberg got 40 poles against Hamilton, Lance Stroll would be on 40 poles too if he was in Rosberg's place. But if Vettel was in Hamilton's Mercedes since 2014, he would have made a century already. Beast of a qualifier and racer, no wonder Toto wants him, Renault wants him, Red Bull rates him among the top 2 greatest drivers of all time.
1. Alonso
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2.Verstappen
3.Ricciardo
4.Raikkonen
5.Vettel
6.Hulkenberg
7.Sainz
8.Hamilton
9.Ocon
10.Gasley/Leclerc
The rest honestly don't even bring anything special, especially those Haas drivers
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