Brate moj. Cmon you really have no business on this forum, because your Vettel hate is just unbelievable. You just point out his weakness as a Ferrari fan but you never tell us that he is a very fast driver. On his day he is unstoppable and has amazing race pace with great overtaking skills. But you just cant stop this hate, its really ridiculous. From Spa 2010 to Singapore 2017 he had just maybe 3 crashes that was his fault. This 3 crashes are Singapore 2017, Malaysia 2016, Baku 2017 and thats it.. Hamilton made many more mistakes even with a dominant car, Spain 2016, Monza 2010, that last lap crash in 2009 (Monza), Singapore 2010, Monza 2010, Monaco 2011, Spa 2011. Soo if anybody is a crash kid that it Lewis.
Woulda shoulda coulda all I know is that for the first time since F3 2005 Hamilton and Vettel have near equal machinery to fight for the title and so far it's not Hamilton who is losing his rag. Vettel also dropped slam dunk poles in Spain and Austria and dropped slam dunk wins in Russia, Spain, Baku, Austria and Singapore. Hamilton too has had a few lows, but Vettel's lows have been utterly shocking.
"Vettel has the pace but he has no brain!" Isnt that a confession from me that he is fast?
3 crashes!!?? He just tok out raikkonen twice last year.... You should refresh your memory.
He lost so much points in this and last year, that is enought for me to get rid of him. Hamilton, Ricciardo and Alonso would win more points than him because they dont do such kind of mistakes (crash mistakes!).
Alonso maybe, but Hamilton, Ricciardo would not have more points. Hamilton also makes lots of mistakes. he cost himself the title in 2007,2010,2016 because of his idiotic mistakes. Vettel had 5 championship winning cars (2009-2013) and he won 4 out of 5 titles. Thats much better than Lewis, this year he also has a fast car, and there are still 6 races to go, anything can happen. If it doesnt, next year we will try again. Senna said if you dont go for the gap you are no longer a racing driver. Or Vettel saying from 2010, never lift never stop believing. This is a winning mentality, Vettel will strike back, sonner of later!!
If I can elaborate what hrc5555 is tryin to say although his metaphor of Vettel not having any brain is excessive I believe he means Vettel lets drivers get in his head.
Your right about pts but alot of it has to do with mental maturity. Ricciardo is already there with regards to mental maturity.....attack but wait for the opportunity until it presents itself given the race has 60 or 70 laps to go. Hamilton is getting there and this year it has shown with several occurences with Max most notably in Hungary when he let Max go ....."this kid is dangerous, did'nt want to take the risk." Max is in Vettels head even though Max is not fighting for nor is in contention for the WDC. Vettel was 2 or 3pts from a race ban on his super-license; whether you think some of those pts are boggus...nevertheless he has a governing body to answer too. How many pts. has Alonso, Lewis and Ricciardo come close to a race ban?????
I can tell as a big Vettel fan that something big happened to him after the 2015 season. Maybe he has some personal, family problems and he is hiding it. Because after 2015 season he started lossing his head too easy, I can agree that with you. In his 2012,2010 years when he had a big fight with Alonso he was much more calm than now. But his race and raw pace is now better than it was in 2009-12. He is still maturing as a driver, but he has to calm down. But dont you worry guys, he is more than capable as a person to improve that in the future.
His behavior on track has been the same since his earlier years. In 2015 everything clicked and the team admittedly aimed low so there was really no reason for him to be upset. He is hot-headed, always has been. I'd rather have him on our team though than any other drivers right now.
He wants to win so bad that at times its clouded his judgement, even more so now with Ferrari because the car is that good and to follow his protege.
He was frustrated with the car as it was not a winning car. He is being the good driver for Ferrari because they were really working hard for Vettel all the while venting and expressing his frustrations on the track and at Charlie. Internally though, it was the Scuderia that was letting him down.
agreed and let's hope so. He, and the team, have a herculean task ahead of themselves.
The best car can get the driver on pole the best driver each race brings the best car home. This last race Seb had the car and pole. Lewis wound up winning. Seb is known to disappear well up front when starting from 1st. Lewis said after the race that he thought, "What would Senna do? " at the time he saw the Ferraris crash. The rest is history.
For those that keep saying that Ferrari lets Seb down, let's not forget that it's also Seb that lets ferrari down like in last race.
All I am trying to say here is, that Seb is JUST a part of Ferrari, and in the grand scheme of things, as Schumi used to say, we win and lose together.
Point fingers does not help!
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
How is that any different than what I said? Meaning that Kimi and Seb work for the team?
That we cannot focus on the drivers and/or how the "team" is letting them down when they are part of the very team?
Kimi and Seb are working towards the very goal, which is FOR the benefit of Ferrari.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
I think that Vettel has been using The Kaiser’s strategy (to move freely from left to right or viceversa when starting form the first row) too liberally. In Michael’s time he got away with it because he commanded more respect and therefore rivals would give him the extra space but nowadays, especially with agressive racers like MV, that isn’t really happening. Seb has to act more intelligently and realize that nobody is going to yield to that questionable move just because he starts from pole. A real shame we lost both cars in the first freaking turn.
I think a lot of his maturity comes from having the best car the last 3-4 years. I think when you are fighting and driving at 100% every lap it is a lot more stressful. When you have a car that gets you pole 90% of the time, can build a gap and then cruise for half the race and even if you start from the back you're pretty much guaranteed a podium, it will allow you to become calmer. You realize that you can bide your time and a race will come to you or 1 or 2 races may not go your way but most will.
When you have to scrap for every last point and wring the car every race it probably wears you down.
hockenheim 2018 / China 2018 : Never forget how quick Ferrari can lose it all, be humble.
Positivity doesn't win you championships, whining about people being negative makes you blind!
lol ignore the bitter old cows ;-)
Lewis had tight battles with Nico. Points were lost but in the end WDC would be either Lewis or Nico.
This season has been different. Two multiple champions in competitive cars with inferior team mates. Lewis has been better IMO in this situation. Seb in fact have more experience about main challenge coming from another team. 2010 against Fernando (and Web) was a tight one, 2012 also. Ham had the similar experience in 2008 though he destroyed Kovalainen from the beginning where Kimi against Felipe was a tight one.
There is still season left though. We just have to remember what Kimi did back in 2007 with help of Massa and the entire team. Keep your head down and concentrate on your own work.
I am a full-blooded Ferrari fan and Vettel/Raikkonen supporter, but I can't help but think Alonso would be leading the championship with this year's Ferrari...
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Bottas is worse than Hamilton, Räikkönen is way worse than Vettel.
I mean Bottas have been solid so far but by no means he can challenge Lewis the way Nico did.
By 2019 HAM and VET won't have the benefit of inferior second driver. Verstappen and Ricciardo are on the loose and I am pretty sure they will replace the finnish drivers.
There were no drivers avaliable for 2018 for Mercedes or Ferrari. With regards to your "inferior" concept, 2018 looks to be one of grid spot penalties since the component '
allocation allotment goes down from 4 to 3, so we could see both taking grid spot penalties half way into the 2018 season. I hope it(allocation) changes between now and then.
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