Canadian GP 2016 race thread

[Greig]

And new stragey maker pleasee

Plenty of them on this forum

[Warp]

We were 4seconds behind Mercedes with 18 laps remaining and VET was closing the gap. Then he did a few mistakes lap after lap..

[Greig]

Whatever. I comented about the undercut already, that's always hanging in the air, that does not matter really.

I believe we would hold on (as we saw how difficult it was for Rosberg) you don't. End of discussion

End of the day nobody cares what you believe or what I believe, so believe what you want.

Undercut does matter but you can say whatever and dismiss it just so you can keep to your believe says a lot.

[bondilad]

And how you going to get that 38 point when Mercedes is always in front of Ferrari, hence scoring more points?

I get what you mean but all I'm saying is its too early to throw in the towel.

[ALO]

Live timming shows 51 laps old tyres used by Alonso

Wow that's WACC

[Schumiklub]

Seb saying he locked up cause he was looking at the seagulls?

Apparently, lol. Who would have thought.

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

Plenty of them on this forum

Really. I seeee

[Kyss4k]

End of the day nobody cares what you believe or what I believe, so believe what you want.

Undercut does matter but you can say whatever and dismiss it just so you can keep to your believe says a lot.

I did not dismiss undercut... What I'm saying is, that it is 50:50 chance and this is always there, when you are figting with somebody. It doesn't have anything to do with who is faster. Nothing more. Of course it is significant piece of strategy ;)

And your "says a lot" is not polite at all.

[Haris]

Undercut is not really that big of an advantage with such hard and consistent tyres like we had here. Having that in mind, it's easy to be smarter now, but it really does look like we should have stayed out on track and defended the position cause otherwise we were forcing Vettel to overtake a faster car on track.

[stefa]

Undercut is not really that big of an advantage with such hard and consistent tyres like we had here. Having that in mind, it's easy to be smarter now, but it really does look like we should have stayed out on track and defended the position cause otherwise we were forcing Vettel to overtake a faster car on track.

Yep.

I like your signature...

[DJTaurus]

Judging by Rosberg that could not pass other cars easily the whole race we don't know how Hamilton would react if he had to try and pass vettel. We should have stayed out and see how it goes not give them the race on hand. We already knew that mercs are super friendly on soft tyres.

[Greig]

Undercut is not really that big of an advantage with such hard and consistent tyres like we had here. Having that in mind, it's easy to be smarter now, but it really does look like we should have stayed out on track and defended the position cause otherwise we were forcing Vettel to overtake a faster car on track.

Lewis went 2 seconds quicker when he pitted, so yes it still worked.

[Schumiklub]

There, Seb just said it, Ham was too fast, so we're still not on par. I guess no point to discuss futher if we should have stayed out or not.

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

Seb is blaming wind for lockup. So our excuse for this weekend WIND

[Kyss4k]

Lewis went 2 seconds quicker when he pitted, so yes it still worked.

But we could pit earlier, so... 50:50.

[stefa]

Judging by Rosberg that could not pass other cars easily the whole race we don't know how Hamilton would react if he had to try and pass vettel. We should have stayed out and see how it goes not give them the race on hand. We already knew that mercs are super friendly on soft tyres.

Exactly!!! Just try!!!

[Greig]

But we could pit earlier, so... 50:50.

Lewis was quicker as Seb says.

[Ste]

Arrivabene: "It was a mistake."

[Greig]

Arrivabene: "It was a mistake."

haha knew the experts would grab that quote. He never said it quite like that though did he.

We pitted cause they made a mistake on the tyre degradation.

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

Arrivabene: "It was a mistake."

It was always a mistake

[Kyss4k]

Lewis was quicker as Seb says.

We all know that. I am talking about the undercut...

[Greig]

We all know that. I am talking about the undercut...

I thought it was end of discussion?

[Ste]

haha knew the experts would grab that quote. He never said it quite like that though did he.

We pitted cause they made a mistake on the tyre degradation.

Nothing to do with being an expert. The point is that others aren't making these kind of calls. Mercedes didn't give us a win today by making a strange call.

Look ok at the facts: We had a stable gap to Lewis. In fact, we had pulled out the gap after Seb missed the chicane. Lewis couldn't pass for a few laps even with DRS. So where did they get the idea that our tyres were fairing any worse than Mercedes? Evidently they weren't. Hence, the decision was weird.

[Kyss4k]

haha knew the experts would grab that quote. He never said it quite like that though did he.

We pitted cause they made a mistake on the tyre degradation.

I don't understand mate... So only two people here believe what we did was right, but everyone else and evem Mr. Arivabene you call "experts" because they believe it was a mistake? That quite... arogant and I am sorry :)

[jpalmito]

Lewis was quicker as Seb says.

Nothing to regret,the mercedes was too quick.
Our car has reduce the gap by half.
3 tenth i think.
We have to forget this championship and hope the team will work to have a real contender next year.
Really fed up to see mercedes winning all the time!

[Kyss4k]

I thought it was end of discussion?

Oh my god. Why are you doing this? Don't you know to what I reacted?

[Timpolidori]

How many mistakes can this team make, I feel sorry for arrivabene having to take the flack for the idiot strategist and useless driving. Vettel was a great driver yet now he's with Ferrari he makes the same mistake at the chicane about six times. In two years Hamilton will join Ferrari and then drive hopelessly no doubt. I'm so fed up of second place.. Ten bloody years

[stringer987]

One day we may realise that track position is more important when it comes to beating Mercedes! Not pitting early and hoping to catch them!

[Ste]

Regardless of the end results, I'm very happy with the performance of the car in both race and Qualifying. The updates definitely gave us something. Not quite there yet, but very close. Hopefully it continues.

[Greig]

Nothing to do with being an expert. The point is that others aren't making these kind of calls. Mercedes didn't give us a win today by making a strange call.

Look ok at the facts: We had a stable gap to Lewis. In fact, we had pulled out the gap after Seb missed the chicane. Lewis couldn't pass for a few laps even with DRS. So where did they get the idea that our tyres were fairing any worse than Mercedes? Evidently they weren't. Hence, the decision was weird.

I imagine Lewis who despite what some think is rather a good driver was just managing his race early on, to suggest he would have sat behind Seb for 40 odd laps and be unable to pass is in my view laughable.

2nd was our best chance today based on Nico being Nico and that's what we got, we have improved but we still have a long way to go to be matching Merc and Lewis.