Expectations from Seb.

[scuderia_nano]

We Will have a new lead driver after half a decade. And first time, a 4 time world champion. A world champion who has worked closely with 1 man we never were able to get to Ferrari *Neway*.

Lets list down expectations that we have from this young gun.


1) A Title how soon? (JAMES ALLISON+co)

2) Expectation with respect to Teammate battles

3) Team building (things Schumacher and Fernando could do with their image)

4) Any others?

[stefa]

My first and only expectation is that Ferrari build decent car which will give both of their drivers chance to compete at the front!!!

[vecchiasignora]

I think the expectations with vettel differ with one from alonso.
Alonso basically came to ferrari, and we were coming out of successful era's. The schumacher era, where we dominated . Then Kimi-Massa, who won us constructor titles and one driver title.And another we were very close.
When Alonso came here, the expectations were titles, dominance..

Now with vettel its different, because the alonso era was failure in every aspect. 0 titles in 5 years, being laughing stock of the grid. I don't think it will take much for vettel to succeed with us, because pressure is less then when Alonso joined.

[vecchiasignora]

to put things in better perspective


this is like van gaal ( vettel ) taking over moyes ( alonso ) who took over ferguson ( schumacher) at manchester united.

[vcs316]

I expect Vettel to work as much or more than Alonso (who fought like a lion for the past 5 years for us), to ensure we are title contenders and eventually champions. Vettel has a lot of work to do if he wants to win championships with Ferrari.

[mirafiori]

I think the expectations with vettel differ with one from alonso.
Alonso basically came to ferrari, and we were coming out of successful era's. The schumacher era, where we dominated . Then Kimi-Massa, who won us constructor titles and one driver title.And another we were very close.
When Alonso came here, the expectations were titles, dominance..

Now with vettel its different, because the alonso era was failure in every aspect. 0 titles in 5 years, being laughing stock of the grid. I don't think it will take much for vettel to succeed with us, because pressure is less then when Alonso joined.

We could of done better but for me to say we are the laughing stock of the grid is unfair, Alonso was 2nd three times and Alonso could of won the title twice. Mclaren were the laughing stock of the grid, not Ferrari.

[stefa]

We could of done better but for me to say we are the laughing stock of the grid is unfair, Alonso was 2nd three times and Alonso could of won the title twice. Mclaren were the laughing stock of the grid, not Ferrari.

[SinanOzerS]

I don't have expectations from Seb or Kimi, i have expectations from Ferrari to win some races and even some fight for the championships.

[FFFerrari]

I have no expectations from Seb regarding next season. If the car isn't up to par it doesn't matter who drives it - the car is 90% of the equation. I do expect Ferrari to return to podium and perhaps win a single race, but likely we aren't running for titles next year.

[eddie]

My humble expectation from Seb after having 4 titles to his name is simple.

He better be ready to drive like a lion if our car isn't the fastest from the get go.

The next 5 years will be very crucial because if there aren't any positive returns, under the new regime, we may potentially face a pullout of support on the F1 program.

Seb will have alot to do and prove that he is championship material and not so much of his previous winning coming from Newey designed cars.

Tough job, but we will support him!

[Brembo]

I think the expectations with vettel differ with one from alonso.
Alonso basically came to ferrari, and we were coming out of successful era's. The schumacher era, where we dominated . Then Kimi-Massa, who won us constructor titles and one driver title.And another we were very close.
When Alonso came here, the expectations were titles, dominance..

Now with vettel its different, because the alonso era was failure in every aspect. 0 titles in 5 years, being laughing stock of the grid. I don't think it will take much for vettel to succeed with us, because pressure is less then when Alonso joined.

Ricciardo turned Vettel into a laughing stock on the grid if anything , a rookie whoppin the boy big time at Vettel's home team RB. In Vettels case it 's 98% car for him to win. Ferrari hasn't been on top of it's game carwise. As far as getting the most out of a not so hot car, Vettel can't shine Alonso's shoes IMO.

[tifosi1993]

My only expectation from Ferrari: no more problem with the calibration of the wind tunnel.

[JPMFerrari]

Expectations are greater for the Ferrari race team principal and Allison than they are with the drivers.

[Kiwi Nick]

Expectations are greater for the Ferrari race team principal and Allison than they are with the drivers.

That's right. Ferrari's drivers are on par with Merc, now the engineers have to deliver a car that is capable of winning. This is going to be tricky. The full force of the work of the new talent At Ferrari will not be felt until 2016. But, if Allison has produced a car that is a big step forward then there is hope for the duration of this formula. If 2015 is not good, the mountain may become too hard to climb.

[mandzipop]

Initially, Seb may have to take over the bulk of winter testing. I don't know when Kimi's baby is due, but looking at recent pics I'd say she's got a couple of months to go at the maximum. He may well be on parental leave for some of the tests. This happened to Seb last year and he ended up only doing a handful of laps going into the 2014 season.

My other expectation is for him to work his socks off in every way possible and gain the respect and love of his team.

[Rishu]

1) title not anytime soon, maybe not before another 3 seasons

2) depends on who he has in the other side of Ferrari garage

3) I think he can be a good team builder

4) he needs to improve his game, yet to show what he can do when car doesn't suit him

[JPMFerrari]

That's right. Ferrari's drivers are on par with Merc, now the engineers have to deliver a car that is capable of winning. This is going to be tricky. The full force of the work of the new talent At Ferrari will not be felt until 2016. But, if Allison has produced a car that is a big step forward then there is hope for the duration of this formula. If 2015 is not good, the mountain may become too hard to climb.

That's the key.

[Stormy]

When Alonso came to Ferrari i didn't really liked it, because of his personality and some of his opinions that he stated while in Renault. But i knew he was a top notch driver and i expected and didn't doubt that Alonso would be of huge help with his performance.
While from Seb i don't expect much, he has never proven his WDC's and he has yet to prove, so my expectations are low when it comes to his performance, but if we build a dominating car his performance wont really matter of course.

[wisepie]

Ricciardo turned Vettel into a laughing stock on the grid if anything , a rookie whoppin the boy big time at Vettel's home team RB. In Vettels case it 's 98% car for him to win. Ferrari hasn't been on top of it's game carwise. As far as getting the most out of a not so hot car, Vettel can't shine Alonso's shoes IMO.

Agree with you Brembo, maybe not a laughing stock but he certainly didn't shine this year and I have doubts about his ability to adjust to a car that doesn't do exactly what he expects it to. He will have to earn our respect first and until Ferrari come up with a seriously competitive car, it'll be a struggle. Hope I'm proved wrong, but anyway I can't yet get my head around supporting finger boy.

[abbottcostello]

Agree with you Brembo, maybe not a laughing stock but he certainly didn't shine this year and I have doubts about his ability to adjust to a car that doesn't do exactly what he expects it to. He will have to earn our respect first and until Ferrari come up with a seriously competitive car, it'll be a struggle. Hope I'm proved wrong, but anyway I can't yet get my head around supporting finger boy.

Same here, though seeing the pics of him at Ferrari have started to help me transition, also hoping he just had an off year. After the pressure of 4 WDC's, he should show a rebound in form even if Ferrari don't give him the best car. A capable car is a bigger worry to me than getting used to... ahhh... ch... ch... cheering for Seb!

[Alonso14]

We Will have a new lead driver after half a decade. And first time, a 4 time world champion. A world champion who has worked closely with 1 man we never were able to get to Ferrari *Neway*.

Lets list down expectations that we have from this young gun.


1) A Title how soon? (JAMES ALLISON+co)

2) Expectation with respect to Teammate battles

3) Team building (things Schumacher and Fernando could do with their image)

4) Any others?

1) Not in the 2-3 years at the very earliest. It's not entirely up to him, of course. I fear that in the coming years we might have a 2012 challenger (an inferior car but with a top driver somehow able to fight for WDC) but we might never know that.

2) Anything less that beating Kimi convincingly won't be good and it will have poor reflection on our management. We lose a driver who destroys Kimi and then replace him with inferior/just as good as Kimi it won't look good.

3) This is a myth, drivers can't build teams anymore. Not when F1 is so technical. It's not like Seb is bringing Newey and Horner with him, is he? I don't expect him to build anything here, he's not the Team Principal and it is not his responsibility to ensure we have a good design team/strategy people/mechanics/working WT/etc. Logically, if we manage a strong team it would be thanks to Arrivabene, Marchionne and the rest of the senior management. A driver's main responsibility is to maximize the performance of the car and to give good feedback on how the car behaves. Nothing more.

4) Sadly, I think 2015 might present him with the opportunity to prove that he can be amazing in less-than-amazing car. That would be a great chance for him to improve/strentghen his reputation like Alonso did.

[Infi24r]

I expect Vettel and Raikkonen can each deliver us titles if we provide them the fastest car, they have shown they are capable of it in past and nothing has changed.

I don't expect either of them to be able to get the best of a car thats not quite there like Alonso did. We need to give them the car.

[abbottcostello]

I expect Vettel and Raikkonen can each deliver us titles if we provide them the fastest car, they have shown they are capable of it in past and nothing has changed.

I don't expect either of them to be able to get the best of a car thats not quite there like Alonso did. We need to give them the car.

Sounds vaguely familiar, like a recurring dream I have.

[Brembo]

Agree with you Brembo, maybe not a laughing stock but he certainly didn't shine this year and I have doubts about his ability to adjust to a car that doesn't do exactly what he expects it to. He will have to earn our respect first and until Ferrari come up with a seriously competitive car, it'll be a struggle. Hope I'm proved wrong, but anyway I can't yet get my head around supporting finger boy.

Wisepie, non ho mai saputo di sicuro, ma con grande speranze ! .... [Anche Felipe !]

[aroutis]

Nice topic.
Well, to put things into perspective, here's what I expect :
- I expect from the team to enable Vettel as much as they could so he can do what he can best, which is racing to the limits. In order to do that :
- I expect them to build a really good team around him that will bond to his needs
- I expect there will be ample communication
- I expect that lessons from the Alonso era will be learned so this time mistakes will be avoided, and said lessons will be put to good use.
- I expect great communication between our drivers. And before smart comments start, let's remember Kimi and Vettel are great friends.

- I do not expect a WDC or WCC next year. I would like to expect one of the two the year after, but something tells me it 'll be 2017 this will happen.
- However, I want to see PROGRESS. I want to see the red team extract better results than this year, and, why not exactly? , beat the hell out of McLaren Honda and be at least the second team in the grid until they're the first.

Lots of expectations.

[stefa]

As unfortunately this year ground breaking record of 20 consecutive seasons (1994 - 2013) with at least one victory for Ferrari per season, has been discontinued, I expect Ferrari and their drivers to be competitive next year and to achieve at least one win !

[Paulpg87]

if someone is interest vettel lapped faster than alonso on 2012 car in fiorano with dry track and also in the simulator has been recording faster laps with the f14t.

[stefa]

if someone is interest vettel lapped faster than alonso on 2012 car in fiorano with dry track and also in the simulator has been recording faster laps with the f14t.

PR.....

[DIEK]

if someone is interest vettel lapped faster than alonso on 2012 car in fiorano with dry track and also in the simulator has been recording faster laps with the f14t.

[tifosi1993]

if someone is interest vettel lapped faster than alonso on 2012 car in fiorano with dry track and also in the simulator has been recording faster laps with the f14t.

Imagine how much faster Dan Ricciardo really is...last race he finished 35 sec ahead of Vettel

No wonder Vettel left Red Bull!