Raikkonen has faith Ferrari will deliver winning car in 2015

[Tony]

What's this about 4 more years for Raikkonen?

[aroutis]

What's this about 4 more years for Raikkonen?

Some stupid notion that Alonso could spare us 4 years of effort and with Raikkonen now, we have to fight 4 more years in order to be where we'd be should we maintained a driver that wanted to leave in the first place.

[AfterLife]

You seem to be under the impression that Alonso is a miracle worker. He is not.
I replied on your last post. Sorry but you 're deluded.

There's a reason he quit. Or actually more.

I repeat, Who says a driver can win the championship with crap car?

[vecchiasignora]

I repeat, Who says a driver can win the championship with crap car?

Schumacher did. But sorry I forgot, alonso aint no schumacher..he is jacques villenueve.

[Greig]

Schumacher did. But sorry I forgot, alonso aint no schumacher..he is jacques villenueve.

When did MS win a title with a crap car?

[vecchiasignora]

When did MS win a title with a crap car?

MS pushed a car 0.4 second faster then it really was.

[Katu]

MS pushed a car 0.4 second faster then it really was.

based on what are you saying this?

[Winter]

MS pushed a car 0.4 second faster then it really was.

There is, never was and never will be a driver who drives faster than the car allows him to drive.

[Greig]

MS pushed a car 0.4 second faster then it really was.

Impossible, so again when did he win with a crap car?

[Alonso14]

MS pushed a car 0.4 second faster then it really was.

MSC could bend the laws of physics??

[Rob]

MSC could bend the laws of physics??

yes, he had one of these on the engine...

[BigGar32]

No way did MS win a championship with a "crap" car. I'd rank them as follows:

94 - possibly not the absolute best car over the season but very competitive against the Williams
95 - that was a good Benetton

2000 - close to McLaren in terms of absolute pace
2001/2002/2003/2004 - dominant car

Mind you, I'd say the car he drove in 96 was basically a poor car (also unreliable) and he produced stunning drives to win some of the GP's that year as well as getting it on pole in France, Monaco etc. Monaco especially was an incredible pole. That was not a good car.

[Alonso14]

yes, he had one of these on the engine...

http://i57.tinypic.com/1emh74.jpg

And let me guess...he designed it himself like every good driver is supposed to?

[Nero Horse]

No way did MS win a championship with a "crap" car. I'd rank them as follows:

94 - possibly not the absolute best car over the season but very competitive against the Williams
95 - that was a good Benetton

2000 - close to McLaren in terms of absolute pace
2001/2002/2003/2004 - dominant car

Mind you, I'd say the car he drove in 96 was basically a poor car (also unreliable) and he produced stunning drives to win some of the GP's that year as well as getting it on pole in France, Monaco etc. Monaco especially was an incredible pole. That was not a good car.

No driver in the history of Formula 1 has won a championship with a total crap car. No one. End of discussion.

[fratelliferrari]

No way did MS win a championship with a "crap" car. I'd rank them as follows:

94 - possibly not the absolute best car over the season but very competitive against the Williams
95 - that was a good Benetton

2000 - close to McLaren in terms of absolute pace
2001/2002/2003/2004 - dominant car

Mind you, I'd say the car he drove in 96 was basically a poor car (also unreliable) and he produced stunning drives to win some of the GP's that year as well as getting it on pole in France, Monaco etc. Monaco especially was an incredible pole. That was not a good car.

2003 a dominant car?? Did you missed that season or what?

[BigGar32]

2003 a dominant car?? Did you missed that season or what?

Apologies! You are correct about 2003. Typed that message massively quickly on the phone. Having said that, I did think the 2003 car was a stunner to look at! Thinking back, that was absolutely a tough season. And I now remember the stresses of that last race in Suzuka!!

[mark p]

But Schumacher was extra special. Perception seems to be Vettel has been lucky with time and place, Alonso is very good but not in the right place, Schumacher had luck like Vettel and was better than Alonso = 7 titles 90 + wins.

Most succesful Ferrari driver ever = best driver ever IN MY OPINION.

Ps 97 and 98 took it to the wire without relying on others failing. Car was quite far back but still won races on pace.

[Nero Horse]

But Schumacher was extra special. Perception seems to be Vettel has been lucky with time and place, Alonso is very good but not in the right place, Schumacher had luck like Vettel and was better than Alonso = 7 titles 90 + wins.

Most succesful Ferrari driver ever = best driver ever IN MY OPINION.

Ps 97 and 98 took it to the wire without relying on others failing. Car was quite far back but still won races on pace.

+1000

Completely agree.

Well said.

[Senna4Ever]

And let me guess...he designed it himself like every good driver is supposed to?

no he took the idea from this guy Doc_Brown.JPG who must be seen now as the first Newey in F1 history ...
so a wet edge of a toilette influenced F1

[Winter]

no I took the idea from this guy Doc_Brown.JPG who must be seen now as the first Newey in F1 history ...
so a wet edge of a toilette influenced F1

He looks kinda Newey:xmaseek:

[aroutis]

No way did MS win a championship with a "crap" car. I'd rank them as follows:

94 - possibly not the absolute best car over the season but very competitive against the Williams
95 - that was a good Benetton

2000 - close to McLaren in terms of absolute pace
2001/2002/2003/2004 - dominant car

Mind you, I'd say the car he drove in 96 was basically a poor car (also unreliable) and he produced stunning drives to win some of the GP's that year as well as getting it on pole in France, Monaco etc. Monaco especially was an incredible pole. That was not a good car.

The two years that Ferrari had a truly dominant car were 2002 and 2004.
By term Dominant Car , one means a car that is simply out of reach. Mercedes had a dominant car at 2014, for example.

Other than that, Ferrari was very competent and Schumacher was really a great driver that made the difference, and Ferrari in itself was THE team to beat.

[ManFromMilan]

MS pushed a car 0.4 second faster then it really was.

Just like some forum members type 0.4 units of baloney more than any other forum member concerning real tangible facts and figures.

[Nero Horse]

Kimi Raikkonen, who endured a well below par return season to Ferrari in 2014, will need to prove next season that he deserves to stay on at Maranello beyond 2015.

That is the warning of new Ferrari team boss Maurizio Arrivabene, following recent reports that the Finnish driver wants to stay at Maranello not only next year but perhaps also in 2016.

35-year-old Raikkonen, however, struggled notably on his return to the Maranello team from Lotus this season, with a points haul one third the size of Fernando Alonso’s and not a single podium appearance.

“Last season was difficult for Kimi,” Arrivabene is quoted by Turun Sanomat newspaper, “but that does not mean that he has lost his speed. He is a former world champion, and more importantly he won the title driving a Ferrari.”

“I want to emphasise that next season Kimi needs the time to show that he is capable, and after that it will be possible to make a decision about the future.”

Raikkonen’s teammate in 2015 will be his friend Sebastian Vettel, Formula 1’s quadruple consecutive world champion for Red Bull between 2010 and 2013.

“For sure,” Arrivabene insisted, “drivers are not a problem for us.”

Raikkonen won Ferrari’s last driver’s championship in 2007, departed the team at the end of 2009 but was brought back for 2014.


http://www.grandprix247.com/2014/12/...he-is-capable/

[ALO]

Ok Kimi keep the faith but, this can not happen next year if we are to be competitive.

"Best team mate head-to-head record: Fernando Alonso, Ferrari - beat Kimi Raikkonen 16-3 over the season, with DNFs included"

source
http://www.formula1.com/news/feature.../12/16738.html

[Ed Harley]

Ok Kimi keep the faith but, this can not happen next year if we are to be competitive.

"Best team mate head-to-head record: Fernando Alonso, Ferrari - beat Kimi Raikkonen 16-3 over the season, with DNFs included"

source
http://www.formula1.com/news/feature.../12/16738.html

Drivers are the least of the team's problems in 2015.

[Greig]

Drivers are the least of the team's problems in 2015.

Disagree, no matter what position we are in then getting the most from our drivers is required.

[Ed Harley]

I said that the drivers are the least of the team's problems.

"For sure," Arrivabene insisted, "drivers are not a problem for us."

[Greig]

I said that the drivers are the least of the team's problems.

"For sure," Arrivabene insisted, "drivers are not a problem for us."

I know what you said, and I disagreed.

[Ed Harley]

Sorry but believe that Mr Arrivabene's assessment of the team's situation is more accurate.

[Greig]

Sorry but believe that Mr Arrivabene's assessment of the team's situation is more accurate.

“I want to emphasise that next season Kimi needs the time to show that he is capable, and after that it will be possible to make a decision about the future.”

Seems like he knows of a problem is coming up for the driver if we get another season like this one.....so again I disagree with YOUR comment.