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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    How do you know he wasn't pushing the car to the max with a full tank of fuel? And, how do you know he was pushing? Just from a trackside observer?

    Plus, his 1m37s was four seconds slower than the time Rosberg did last week, not two.
    Oh, sure, it's always that little detail that makes the car a demon in disguise. Every year it's the same story: when rumors start to spread that the car lacks performance, the Ferrari fans start saying it's just rumors, it doesn't prove anything, etc. Even when it's plain obvious the car is slow, they still go on about how things are actually good.

    Well, it's not good! The Ferrari V6 is down on power and the car's aerodynamics are just as hopeless as those on the previous designs because it's the same guy doing the designs.

    EDIT: And now, I read that the gearbox sounds bad, which could mean mechanical problems, although that might just be engine mapping. I'm sorry to go on about this, but is the Scuderia's personnel on LSD or something? What has happened there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles View Post
    Oh, sure, it's always that little detail that makes the car a demon in disguise. Every year it's the same story: when rumors start to spread that the car lacks performance, the Ferrari fans start saying it's just rumors, it doesn't prove anything, etc. Even when it's plain obvious the car is slow, they still go on about how things are actually good.

    Well, it's not good! The Ferrari V6 is down on power and the car's aerodynamics are just as hopeless as those on the previous designs because it's the same guy doing the designs.
    But you know it,right?
    "Sebastian,Daniel is Faster Than you"
    "Tough Luck!"

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    I think that's also a new rear wing endplate in the image 2 above. The one where the exhaust exit is mentioned.
    Last edited by Rosso Corsa; 27th February 2014 at 12:46. Reason: someone posted another pic

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    just 41 laps?!?

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    13:43 A little more on Red Bull's troubles today from BEN ANDERSON.

    "Apparently there's nothing wrong on the Renault side, but the RB10 is suffering overheating issues every time the driver tries to push it harder.

    "Then it's back into the pits to open up the car and improve the cooling before the cycle repeats."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles View Post
    Oh, sure, it's always that little detail that makes the car a demon in disguise. Every year it's the same story: when rumors start to spread that the car lacks performance, the Ferrari fans start saying it's just rumors, it doesn't prove anything, etc. Even when it's plain obvious the car is slow, they still go on about how things are actually good.

    Well, it's not good! The Ferrari V6 is down on power and the car's aerodynamics are just as hopeless as those on the previous designs because it's the same guy doing the designs.
    Blah, Blah, Blah.....

    "The Ferrari V6 is down on power and the car's aerodynamics are just as hopeless "

    And you know this because? Do you have CFD or Windtunnel or DYNO data? If yes, show them, otherwise do not judge as if you had the truth in your pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles View Post
    Oh, sure, it's always that little detail that makes the car a demon in disguise. Every year it's the same story: when rumors start to spread that the car lacks performance, the Ferrari fans start saying it's just rumors, it doesn't prove anything, etc. Even when it's plain obvious the car is slow, they still go on about how things are actually good.

    Well, it's not good! The Ferrari V6 is down on power and the car's aerodynamics are just as hopeless as those on the previous designs because it's the same guy doing the designs.

    EDIT: And now, I read that the gearbox sounds bad, which could mean mechanical problems, although that might just be engine mapping. I'm sorry to go on about this, but is the Scuderia's personnel on LSD or something? What has happened there?
    It isn't the same guys doing the designs.
    You don't know we're down on power.
    You don't know what fuel we were running, or what tyres.

    You're on a downer for no reason.

    You know nothing about the gearbox, or what these 'noises' are. Traction control sounded rough, EBD sounded rough. There are loads of different noises. We have a different gearbox to Mercedes so of course everything will sound different. You're taking the opinion of an occasional trackside observer to mean that something is very wrong.

    Ferrari have expressed no concerns about performance or missing schedules or targets or plans so there's nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    just 41 laps?!?
    no big issue: we're just struggling with our CO2 emission trades ;)
    as soon we have cleared it up ... all here have to fasten seatbelts ... and put the PC into slow motion mode as otherwise it would be too fast to watch the times ...

    "If I was driving for Red Bull [from 2008] probably I would have more championships, but because they were dominating between 2010 and 2014 probably I would never have driven for Ferrari. I am very happy and very proud to drive for Ferrari, all my time there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles View Post
    Oh, sure, it's always that little detail that makes the car a demon in disguise. Every year it's the same story: when rumors start to spread that the car lacks performance, the Ferrari fans start saying it's just rumors, it doesn't prove anything, etc. Even when it's plain obvious the car is slow, they still go on about how things are actually good.

    Well, it's not good! The Ferrari V6 is down on power and the car's aerodynamics are just as hopeless as those on the previous designs because it's the same guy doing the designs.

    EDIT: And now, I read that the gearbox sounds bad, which could mean mechanical problems, although that might just be engine mapping. I'm sorry to go on about this, but is the Scuderia's personnel on LSD or something? What has happened there?
    Such nitpicking,amazing, im taking you're not much fan of Ferrari in general.
    If you knew the purpose of the test is that, to test stuff,different set up and conditions that could occur during the race while finding the perfect balance and speed for the car while providing upgrades during it. You're jumping quick to assumption on a test that is still running, thats hilarious .Just because we did bad in the past magically we will do same ? and especially with so many new additions to the team and new rules, really ?

    To make it clear, nobody knows how the teams are, we will only know at Qualifying of the first GP in Melbourne before that is just speculation and nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    It isn't the same guys doing the designs.
    You don't know we're down on power.
    You don't know what fuel we were running, or what tyres.

    You're on a downer for no reason.

    You know nothing about the gearbox, or what these 'noises' are. Traction control sounded rough, EBD sounded rough. There are loads of different noises. We have a different gearbox to Mercedes so of course everything will sound different. You're taking the opinion of an occasional trackside observer to mean that something is very wrong.

    Ferrari have expressed no concerns about performance or missing schedules or targets or plans so there's nothing to worry about.
    Fine, then don't worry. Be happy!

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    Today was supposed that we were going for long runs

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    I have to admit Im a little worried as of the moment.
    but i still have the faith in the car. I don't believe that the car's aerodynamics is hopeless nor the power unit is weak
    Hell would have broken loose

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    hey bubb, are you schizophrene

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    Today was supposed that we were going for long runs
    No, this test was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosso Corsa View Post
    I think that's also a new rear wing endplate in the image 2 above. The one where the exhaust exit is mentioned.
    Show in pic please
    End plate looks same to me
    Last edited by PadGeT; 27th February 2014 at 13:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    Ferrari have expressed no concerns about performance or missing schedules or targets or plans so there's nothing to worry about.
    The guy might over reacting
    But has Ferrari expressed some concerns about performance of our 2012 car?
    and then came Australia ...

    So us over-reacting ... meaningless
    but also Ferrari not expressing any conserns ... meaningless ... as we don't know what's going on behind ....
    "If I was driving for Red Bull [from 2008] probably I would have more championships, but because they were dominating between 2010 and 2014 probably I would never have driven for Ferrari. I am very happy and very proud to drive for Ferrari, all my time there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    No, this test was.
    Maybe you don't read very well...

    http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/tes...ain-kimi-start

    The afternoon will see some long run tests

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    Raikkonen moves up to third, having set his best lap of the Sakhir circuit so far this pre-season.

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    From AMUS:

    Even with Räikkönen again a green flashes on time. In the afternoon the Ferrari was in fine form. Too bad they spent almost the entire morning with a repair

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    If you read the whole article, you will understand that they mean "every afternoon". So yes, we have missed one today but it's not only today we were expecting to do a long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna4Ever View Post
    The guy might over reacting
    But has Ferrari expressed some concerns about performance of our 2012 car?
    and then came Australia ...

    So us over-reacting ... meaningless
    but also Ferrari not expressing any conserns ... meaningless ... as we don't know what's going on behind ....
    Good point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna4Ever View Post
    But has Ferrari expressed some concerns about performance of our 2012 car?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    Show in pic please
    The extra element that's been at the back of our endplate is now gone

    Old Endplates




    New Endplates


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    Anyone knows on which tyre type did Kimi do his best laptime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifosi1993 View Post
    Yes.
    Not before the season start, I don't think so. They don't discuss these stuff before the season start. So we will never know until the season start. What the team doesn't say is of no importance as they won't reveal anything anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSS EL BOSS View Post
    Anyone knows on which tyre type did Kimi do his best laptime?
    kimi was on medium



    http://cdn.images.autosport.com/edit...1393509999.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosso Corsa View Post
    The extra element that's been at the back of our endplate is now gone

    Old Endplates
    New Endplates


    I noticed it but thot thats to do with the angle we are viewing from, now i see the other plate its clear though . Thnx
    Wonder why it as there so, i mean its probably beneficial to have that extra strake at the back of the endplate, as it allows more volume for the exhaust to expand
    Last edited by PadGeT; 27th February 2014 at 14:20.

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    Has anyone noticed it's a new floor too? Three vents before the rear wheel, lump behind the Hublot logo...

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    "Finally we get to see the new spec front wing on the F14 T.

    "Its new wing features some seven elements on the outer tips, with the main plane split into two elements, then there's two flaps one of which is also split into three elements.

    "So many slots allow Ferrari to work the outer tips of the wing harder, both for downforce and to turn the wake around the front tyre.

    "This wing is also sports a new endplate with a far simpler open-sided shape than the launch spec wing.

    "both wings use an unusual slotted fin running along the top of the endplate."


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    Well that's it for day 1. 53 laps I think

    Edit: Damn, it was Ferrari who stopped on the track

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