2012 Indian GP: Race Thread

[Stormsearcher]

What an amazing race! Fernando once again, just incredible. I just loved the way he went after the bulls after disposing of the mclarens. Oh for a car that is even ever so slightly faster than this. We would have already been sipping the champagne.

He wont give up and with a lil luck i think he is right in saying, we will win this title!

Massa drove solid. I can imagine kimis frustration having to follow massa throughout the race cause our straightline pace is fantastic. good for us.

Hope the new alternators of the RBR cars blow up in abu dhabi.

[F2002]

Well it's certainly a lot more easier for him than for all the other drivers out there. If you have a car that's half a second faster than all the other cars, then I'd say it's pretty easy to pick up wins all the time. Of course driving an F1 car is not easy, I know that, but I'm sure that any driver from current top 6 would win WDCs just as easily as Vettel has if they would have such fast cars at their disposal. A good example is Jenson Button, not a particularly great driver, and yet he completely dominated in 2009. Why? Because he had a far superior car than everybody else that year. It's the same story with Vettel...just a decent driver in a super machine.

That reminds me. Nobody has reopened the "Button: Alonso is not a worry" thread.

Wonder how Jenson feels about this now, eh?

[wisepie]

Ask Lewis.

Nice one, Suzie, as far as I'm concerened Felipe was WDC in 2008, no question.

[Ken]

That reminds me. Nobody has reopened the "Button: Alonso is not a worry" thread.

Wonder how Jenson feels about this now, eh?

Its too obvious, as indicated by his silence

[Greig]

[stefa]

remind me what happened in Canada again.

Late call for pit stop for tire change. Instead of healthy 2nd FA finished 5th. Team was aiming for the win... Year right!

[Red passion]

Late call for pit stop for tire change. Instead of healthy 2nd FA finished 5th. Team was aiming for the win... Year right!

Thanks Stefa

I had forgotten about that

[stefa]

Thanks Stefa

I had forgotten about that

No problem. I told myself back than, please not let it be that we will be missing this 8 points in the last races of the season.

I hope we wont miss them...

[brembo man]

We must admit that Vettel himself is driving really well - yes the car is good, but he has been absolutely flawless, especially in the latter races.

Put the boy in some heavy traffic , where'e Grosjean when you need him??? That rocket from pole is just too much for anyone .

[varun]

Guys any news of any new WORKING upgrades for Abu Dhabi??
we need to improve in qualifying!!!!

[anialonso]

Guys any news of any new WORKING upgrades for Abu Dhabi??
we need to improve in qualifying!!!!

Pat Fry did say that they had some updates for Abu Dhabi but what they are we will only know on Friday..but Ferrari need to improve their traction out of slow corners to be competitive at this venue..

[F2002]

Put the boy in some heavy traffic , where'e Grosjean when you need him??? That rocket from pole is just too much for anyone .

Nobody is giving him pole position for free as far as I am aware....

[Dino]

Nobody is giving him pole position for free as far as I am aware....

We can be much closer if we cut the corners with all four wheels like he does.

[F2002]

We can be much closer if we cut the corners with all four wheels like he does.

Not sure that move gave him half a second.

Plus, he cut the corners because he can...

[diesel08]

Alonso furious at Ferrari in India

By Editor on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Photo credit: Ferrari S.p.A.

Fernando Alonso almost lost his temper ahead of last Sunday’s Indian grand prix, the Italian newspaper La Stampa reports.

The newspaper said the Spaniard was furious after the Maranello based team’s technical boss Pat Fry blamed the drivers for a sub-standard qualifying performance.

“The result reflects our current potential,” said Fry after Alonso qualified fifth in India.

“But in order to be where we wanted and where we were capable of being, we needed to be perfect today and we weren’t,” he added.

Alonso went into the Indian GP weekend bemoaning the fact that, despite always talking up Ferrari’s improvements, the F2012 has not substantially improved for several races.

And his characterisation of his title battle as a head-to-head with Red Bull’s Adrian Newey might also be interpreted as a slight on Newey’s Ferrari equivalents.

La Stampa said that when Alonso heard about Fry’s post-qualifying comments, he “went into a rage”.

“(Stefano) Domenicali tried to calm him down … but the discussion continued until 1am,” the report added.

The newspaper said Alonso drafted on his phone a message to his Twitter fans that read: “I want my 1.2 million followers to know that the key aerodynamic components at the rear of the Ferrari are still the same as they were in May”.

La Stampa reported: “It took a lot of persuading Alonso not to press the submit button.”

Domenicali commented: “You (the media) are good at creating stories that do not exist.”

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo is quoted by La Gazzetta dello Sport: “Alonso is right to push the engineers.”

Felipe Massa, meanwhile, revealed to Brazil’s Totalrace that his F2012 was not in the same specification as Alonso’s in India last weekend.

“I had half as much as him,” said the Brazilian, “and even more will arrive in Abu Dhabi.”

In the wake of the reported Twitter affair, Alonso told his 1.2 million followers that his fighting spirit is intact for the remaining three races of 2012.

“If the sword breaks, fight with your hands,” he said, quoting a samurai. “If they cut your hands, push the enemy with your shoulders, even your teeth.”

[diesel08]

http://www.f1zone.net/news/alonso-fu...n-india/16451/

[anialonso]

Alonso furious at Ferrari in India

By Editor on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Photo credit: Ferrari S.p.A.

Fernando Alonso almost lost his temper ahead of last Sunday’s Indian grand prix, the Italian newspaper La Stampa reports.

The newspaper said the Spaniard was furious after the Maranello based team’s technical boss Pat Fry blamed the drivers for a sub-standard qualifying performance.

“The result reflects our current potential,” said Fry after Alonso qualified fifth in India.

“But in order to be where we wanted and where we were capable of being, we needed to be perfect today and we weren’t,” he added.

Alonso went into the Indian GP weekend bemoaning the fact that, despite always talking up Ferrari’s improvements, the F2012 has not substantially improved for several races.

And his characterisation of his title battle as a head-to-head with Red Bull’s Adrian Newey might also be interpreted as a slight on Newey’s Ferrari equivalents.

La Stampa said that when Alonso heard about Fry’s post-qualifying comments, he “went into a rage”.

“(Stefano) Domenicali tried to calm him down … but the discussion continued until 1am,” the report added.

The newspaper said Alonso drafted on his phone a message to his Twitter fans that read: “I want my 1.2 million followers to know that the key aerodynamic components at the rear of the Ferrari are still the same as they were in May”.

La Stampa reported: “It took a lot of persuading Alonso not to press the submit button.”

Domenicali commented: “You (the media) are good at creating stories that do not exist.”

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo is quoted by La Gazzetta dello Sport: “Alonso is right to push the engineers.”

Felipe Massa, meanwhile, revealed to Brazil’s Totalrace that his F2012 was not in the same specification as Alonso’s in India last weekend.

“I had half as much as him,” said the Brazilian, “and even more will arrive in Abu Dhabi.”

In the wake of the reported Twitter affair, Alonso told his 1.2 million followers that his fighting spirit is intact for the remaining three races of 2012.

“If the sword breaks, fight with your hands,” he said, quoting a samurai. “If they cut your hands, push the enemy with your shoulders, even your teeth.”

These are the same reports that said "Massa had a RedBull style exhaust" and "Ferrari would have a big upgrade for India"
Its better to ignore such reports..

[F2002]

Alonso furious at Ferrari in India

By Editor on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Photo credit: Ferrari S.p.A.

Fernando Alonso almost lost his temper ahead of last Sunday’s Indian grand prix, the Italian newspaper La Stampa reports.

The newspaper said the Spaniard was furious after the Maranello based team’s technical boss Pat Fry blamed the drivers for a sub-standard qualifying performance.

“The result reflects our current potential,” said Fry after Alonso qualified fifth in India.

“But in order to be where we wanted and where we were capable of being, we needed to be perfect today and we weren’t,” he added.

Alonso went into the Indian GP weekend bemoaning the fact that, despite always talking up Ferrari’s improvements, the F2012 has not substantially improved for several races.

And his characterisation of his title battle as a head-to-head with Red Bull’s Adrian Newey might also be interpreted as a slight on Newey’s Ferrari equivalents.

La Stampa said that when Alonso heard about Fry’s post-qualifying comments, he “went into a rage”.

“(Stefano) Domenicali tried to calm him down … but the discussion continued until 1am,” the report added.

The newspaper said Alonso drafted on his phone a message to his Twitter fans that read: “I want my 1.2 million followers to know that the key aerodynamic components at the rear of the Ferrari are still the same as they were in May”.

La Stampa reported: “It took a lot of persuading Alonso not to press the submit button.”

Domenicali commented: “You (the media) are good at creating stories that do not exist.”

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo is quoted by La Gazzetta dello Sport: “Alonso is right to push the engineers.”

Felipe Massa, meanwhile, revealed to Brazil’s Totalrace that his F2012 was not in the same specification as Alonso’s in India last weekend.

“I had half as much as him,” said the Brazilian, “and even more will arrive in Abu Dhabi.”

In the wake of the reported Twitter affair, Alonso told his 1.2 million followers that his fighting spirit is intact for the remaining three races of 2012.

“If the sword breaks, fight with your hands,” he said, quoting a samurai. “If they cut your hands, push the enemy with your shoulders, even your teeth.”

Thanks for this, please have a look at this thread which discusses the same topic:
http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/sh...-with-the-team

[Ste]

Please stop posting that article which has been posted about five times now and is completely un-true. Ferrari denied it via Twitter.

[Hermann]

Please stop posting that article which has been posted about five times now and is completely un-true. Ferrari denied it via Twitter.

Tell that to the haterz on autosport. They seem to live from such 'news', like vampires feeding on blood.

[Rishu]

The newspaper said Alonso drafted on his phone a message to his Twitter fans that read: “I want my 1.2 million followers to know that the key aerodynamic components at the rear of the Ferrari are still the same as they were in May”.

And then he decides to run the new Diffuser. Lol

[Nova]

No one knows if this is true or not..only FA and Ferrari..
But I do agree with what Luca (they say) he said....Alonso is right to push the engineers.
It time to go bells out..Push to the max, try everything that we have,
n if we dont have anything, make something...only a few more races to go!

[anialonso]

Alonso denies reports of internal Ferrari row

Championship contender Fernando Alonso has dismissed as “not true” reports in the Italian media of a post-qualifying row with Ferrari team members in India last weekend.

La Stampa newspaper claimed that the Spaniard took exception to media comments by Ferrari’s British technical director Pat Fry, and threatened to publish a ‘tweet’ about a lack of aerodynamic progress during his fading 2012 title battle.

The story spilled into the international media early this week, with some publications claiming that the revelation of an argument is fair game.

Some even linked the tale to Lewis Hamilton’s switch to Mercedes, and the rumours about Sebastian Vettel moving to Ferrari in 2014, suggesting Alonso’s future could be McLaren.

“The problem is when it is not true,” Alonso hit back on Twitter.

“It’s not fair to your readers,” he added in Spanish.

“Forza Ferrari,” Alonso ended the exchange, amid reports in the Spanish sports daily Marca that Ferrari will do yet another straightline aerodynamic test this week before introducing more updates for the F2012 in Abu Dhabi.

“I do not remember when [the test is taking place],” Fry is quoted as saying.

“We have small improvements coming to Abu Dhabi, and more in America,” he added.

“It’s not over yet and we need to keep pushing as much as we can.”

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo, meanwhile, played down claims that Alonso has been overstepping the mark with some of his apparent criticism of Ferrari’s developmental progress in 2012.

“He is the best driver in the world,” said the Italian, “of that there can be no doubt.

“If he says certain things, it is only to keep everyone under pressure,” added Montezemolo.

Pressure, of course, is not in short supply, with Montezemolo insisting that Ferrari must up its game in qualifying.

“If we always start from the third or fourth row,” he is quoted by La Stampa, “then everything else becomes difficult, if not impossible.”

So now please stop that useless discussion....

[F2002]

So now please stop that useless discussion....

This in two threads now.

You trying to send us all away from the forum ?

[Ken]

So now please stop that useless discussion....

Got a agree with you there

If the author of the original saw our boards he would be delighted to see the effect his article is having in here, dammit all, we giving him the fame and notice he does not deserve.

[anialonso]

This in two threads now.

You trying to send us all away from the forum ?

I posted in both the threads where it was earlier posted that Alonso was furious at Ferrari..my aim was to only make all the members realize that the thing they are discussing about is not true in the first place..