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Yeah i know and its sad. Imagine if this would of happened to Lewis or Button. British press would be calling us cheats aswell and not seeing the evidence that is clearly in front of them and backing us. Its case of casual british fans (watch just cos Lewis and Jense is winning) and the media not understanding the rules and safety aspect of the rules.
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Yep the british media and fans in general are biased parasites. All forums they are all claiming alonso is obsessed with Hamilton for getting upset, when in reality he would feel the same if any other championship rival had cheated and profited. British media really is a joke as well, I cant for mark hughes bbc article tomorrow on Lewis vs alonso. Expect to hear Alonso is cracking and still obsessed with 2007 and allowing hamilton to get under his skin. Well its easy to get under someones skin when your allowed to cheat and get away with it. The british drivers have been very lucky all year especially button. Our luck will change.Originally Posted by Rob
Yeah i know and its sad. Imagine if this would of happened to Lewis or Button. British press would be calling us cheats aswell and not seeing the evidence that is clearly in front of them and backing us. Its case of casual british fans (watch just cos Lewis and Jense is winning) and the media not understanding the rules and safety aspect of the rules.
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As opposed to the open minded Alonso fans right? get a grip
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Thats generalising quite a bit. Sure, all fans are partisan to their own team/driver... but i will agree with Mirage on this, the british press is absolutely the worst.
I am guessing they are blaming their loss in the world cup to the goal that was disallowed.
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No worse than the Italian, Spanish and German mediagets a bit boring people branding all Brit fans under the same.....
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lol.. i guess its cause more ppl can read english rather than italian, spanish or german.No worse than the Italian, Spanish and German media
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I don't really think it's fair slating the general British media for bias... not trying to defend them or anything, but it's not like the Italian press are not biased towards Ferrari, or the Spanish press are not biased towards Alonso or the German press are not biased towards Schumacher/Vettel/Mercedes!
And just as an example, following England's exit from the World Cup, all the tabloids here have been hammering the team and the players and the manager and even the Football Association! So the "biased" British press can go to both extremes.
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They slated Jenson in the past as well, now just tend to ignore him, anyway the specialist F1 press in the UK is pretty good, the guardian etc is not what I would consider F1 media in the UK.
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Exactly!
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its worse because its more widespread. english press dominates the english speaking market, and main publications, autosport, f1racing, bbc.No worse than the Italian, Spanish and German media
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I really donīt think we can blame Lewis for doing what he did. Vettel was in front of him and then suddenly he saw the SC coming. He knew at that moment that if he succeeded in crossing the line before the SC did and the Ferrari's did not, he would get rid of them. But Fernando was right behind him and he had to make sure Fernando would stay behind. So he tried to be just in time, but he was too late. From then on he must have known he would get a penalty but as long as he did not get it he could win time.
It was clever thinking and no more than that.
The mistake however was not his, he just took the opportunity that came to him in these few moments.
The real mistake was the SC being far too late. The SC should have been in front of VEttel, who was the leader. But they screwed up and noone, not the stewards or Charlie or whoever corrected the situation. On the contrary, they did nothing for a long time.
And after the race , there were no excuse made , no mistakes admitted. No, the FIA stays quiet and does not take the blame.
And that is bad for the sport, the fans and Ferrari.
Racecontrol and the FIA are to blame in this and not Lewis who simply tried to take the opportunity given to both Vettel and himself. The only mistake Lewis made was that he was too late.
I really dislike Hamilton, but we have to stay fair.
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Safety Car Was Too Slow Says Massa
Felipe Massa finished a lowly 14th in Valencia after both Ferrari drivers were caught behind the safety car for Mark Webber’s accident, and even penalties for other drivers only pushed him up to 11th.
It was Massa’s third consecutive failure to score, and he still lies eighth in the World Championship, 60 points behind leader Lewis Hamilton.
Massa was furious that he and Fernando Alonso were trapped behind the safety car, which he claims was traveling unusually slowly before it waved them by. The delay meant they tumbled down the order after their pit stops.
“It was a very bad day,” said Massa when asked about his race by this writer. “I think we had a good car, and a good possibility to fight. We were third and fourth. And then we had a very difficult moment when we had the big accident. We didn’t see any yellow flag for the safety car until the main straight, when we were on the main straight we saw it. And then I saw everybody stopping behind me.
“And apart from this we had the safety car at the end of the straight, and it was Lewis, Fernando and me behind the car, and then suddenly the car has yellow lights, doing the normal line. And then suddenly I saw that Lewis passed the car, and it was Fernando and me behind. The car was very, very slow, and we lost completely the whole race there.
“Suddenly we got the green light to pass the safety car in Turn 14, after the accident. So it destroyed completely our race, for me because of the safety car which is not supposed to be so slow like that. But also we lost the possibility to fight.”
Like Alonso, Felipe made it clear that he was not happy with the penalty that ultimately cost Hamilton no positions.
“Lewis passed the car with the yellow lights, and they gave the drive though after 20 minutes, and he didn’t lose anything in the race. Today everything that happened was wrong.”
“What’s happened with the decisions from the race director today, and from everybody who works on the decision, was completely wrong. They cannot do that, because what happened today was a big thing.
“When you are behind the safety car and the safety car has a yellow light, doing the normal line, you cannot pass it. The minimum you need to get for that is a time penalty. The minimum. And not after 20 minutes.”
Massa says he has not given up on his title hopes: “Until the mathematics is not there, I will push, and try to be there for fighting. That’s my style, and I will push.”
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...ow-says-massa/
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