2018 Austrian GP - Pre-Race news

[jgonzalesm6]

A 3rd DRS zone will be added

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgibNkOXUAAztTI.jpg


Pirelli analysis

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgiVFB7X4AE0-W-.jpg


Renault to bring long-awaited new MGU-K to Austria https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renault-new-mguk-austria-mclaren-red-bull-1047510/ …

[512 TR]

As I said in another thread last week I have a gut feeling Ferrari will finally do very well in Austria. It was on the cards last year and only the impossible task of passing a similar strong car gave Bottas the win last year. Exactly the same thing happened in Bahrain this year where Seb won because Bottas couldn't pass on fresher tyres. If you look at the circuit layout it's very similar to Bahrain. It's stop-and-go with a few corners midway through the lap. But what sets both circuits apart is obviously the altitude. Ferrari's engine/PU seems to be less thirsty than the Merc and that will give Ferrari the chance to run a richer fuelmix in Austria. For qualifying that should be a big advantage. Original soft, supersoft and ultrasoft tyres will be used. That's better than Bahrain and the same as Baku. Ferrari sure could use a 1-2 finish here.

Tyres compounds up until Russia below.
https://news.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/news/russia-2018-compounds

[Hornet]

I'm glad the next race is this weekend.
We can forget about the last race quicker

[FerrariF60]

A 3rd DRS zone will be added

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgibNkOXUAAztTI.jpg


Pirelli analysis

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgiVFB7X4AE0-W-.jpg


Renault to bring long-awaited new MGU-K to Austria https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/renault-new-mguk-austria-mclaren-red-bull-1047510/ …

that could give red FOOLS a little more extra power and going along with the BEST chassis they have out of the top 3 teams.....well it could spoil our day....but probably NOT, WE HOPE....

[FerrariF60]

As I said in another thread last week I have a gut feeling Ferrari will finally do very well in Austria. It was on the cards last year and only the impossible task of passing a similar strong car gave Bottas the win last year. Exactly the same thing happened in Bahrain this year where Seb won because Bottas couldn't pass on fresher tyres. If you look at the circuit layout it's very similar to Bahrain. It's stop-and-go with a few corners midway through the lap. But what sets both circuits apart is obviously the altitude. Ferrari's engine/PU seems to be less thirsty than the Merc and that will give Ferrari the chance to run a richer fuelmix in Austria. For qualifying that should be a big advantage. Original soft, supersoft and ultrasoft tyres will be used. That's better than Bahrain and the same as Baku. Ferrari sure could use a 1-2 finish here.

Tyres compounds up until Russia below.
https://news.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/news/russia-2018-compounds

Mention that to Kimi so he qualifies better when it matters, Q3

[stefa]

Is it going to be dry weekend in Austria?

[FerrariF60]

Is it going to be dry weekend in Austria?

Still long way until the weekend, but hopefully it is, unles we’re not competitive and we’ll be doing the rain dance

[jgonzalesm6]

Is it going to be dry weekend in Austria?


Still long way until the weekend, but hopefully it is, unles we’re not competitive and we’ll be doing the rain dance


50% rain Friday and dry Sat & Sun......you never know in these parts......weather changes constantly.


tyre selection for all teams

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgiiLV_WAAISDK-.jpg

[Brembo]

Will the track also be painted to look like tires? I wonder how the drivers liked it?

[WS6TransAm01]

Seb needs the win in Austria because Lewis will win in GB and I predict a Merc 1-2 there.

[wisepie]

Seb needs the win in Austria because Lewis will win in GB and I predict a Merc 1-2 there.

I suppose the chances are high of a HAM win at Silverstone, but it's not a certainty and what satisfaction it would give us to see a Ferrari win! Likewise we need to win in Austria. The weather in UK has been very hot recently but you can guarantee that by the time Silverstone comes round, it will change and the odds will be against us. But we'll try!:pray;-)

[racingbradley]

I suppose the chances are high of a HAM win at Silverstone, but it's not a certainty and what satisfaction it would give us to see a Ferrari win! Likewise we need to win in Austria.
OMG A Ferrari win at Silverstone especially if we could spring a 1, 2 out of the bag. A lot of people would find that a hard one to take.
We keep our hopes high for Sunday and pray for a fair wind on Seb & Kimi's backs. :-D
I see Seb has been slated by the Italian press but he's old enough to handle all of that but I would hate young Charles to have to deal with similar at the tender age of 20. It could ruin him. :-s It really is the lion's den when things go wrong.

[Greig]

Seb will win at Silverstone, I am due a win there :-D

[coshida]

That would be so great in front of these HAM/Mercedes fans.:-D

[coshida]

tyre selection for Silverstone:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgnB9pnW4AA9Rpd?format=jpg

8 sets of soft tires. I think the soft tires will suit the sf71h very well.

[zike]

Seb will win at Silverstone, I am due a win there :-D

And Austria :ferrarifl

[FerrariF60]

And Austria :ferrarifl

That would be ideal, two wins in a row especially one at Merc,s home race.....that would be the cherry on top

[Rishu]

Just out of curiosity, what’s the car set up in Red Bull ring? Is it low downforce?

[jgonzalesm6]

Just out of curiosity, what’s the car set up in Red Bull ring? Is it low downforce?

The track is 700m above sea level, so there is less downforce due to the thinner air. Thinner air means the turbo works harder.

[Stormy]

The track is 700m above sea level, so there is less downforce due to the thinner air. Thinner air means the turbo works harder.

So medium downforce? Do you think our car at the moment works best when at medium downforce circumstances?

[WS6TransAm01]

I suppose the chances are high of a HAM win at Silverstone, but it's not a certainty and what satisfaction it would give us to see a Ferrari win! Likewise we need to win in Austria. The weather in UK has been very hot recently but you can guarantee that by the time Silverstone comes round, it will change and the odds will be against us. But we'll try!:pray;-)

I would poop twice and die if Seb wins in Silverstone, but I don't see it happening. This is why a win in Austria with Ham finishing down the order is important.

[tifosi1993]

Just out of curiosity, what’s the car set up in Red Bull ring? Is it low downforce?

Current tyres + halo = more drag, so teams need to shed downforce. Straight line speed is more important here than cornering speed.

[jgonzalesm6]

So medium downforce? Do you think our car at the moment works best when at medium downforce circumstances?

What's medium downforce???? As to opposed to minimum and maximum downforce??

It's RedBulls track so not so many corners plus a third DRS....... so less downforce than Paul Ricard.

[jgonzalesm6]

[Autobild] Sebastian Vettel remains calm and not in panic mode after Mercedes‘s superior win in France

Vettel: "Especially the pace of my teammate Kimi in the 2nd stint shows me: already on Sunday in Austria, everything can be different. There is no reason to panic."

[Stormy]

What's medium downforce???? As to opposed to minimum and maximum downforce??

It's RedBulls track so not so many corners plus a third DRS....... so less downforce than Paul Ricard.

So RB are good at less downforce? I thought quite the opposite given the fact that their biggest advantages is coming from their chassis and aero and not their engine.

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=jgonzalesm6;977328]What's medium downforce???? As to opposed to minimum and maximum downforce??

It's" Max "imum Verstappen ! 2nd place! He's the guy to watch.

[Rishu]

The track is 700m above sea level, so there is less downforce due to the thinner air. Thinner air means the turbo works harder.


Current tyres + halo = more drag, so teams need to shed downforce. Straight line speed is more important here than cornering speed.

Thanks

[nani_s23]

Both ferraris needs to lock out front row. That’s imp, kimi needs to lift up his q3 performances.
Vettel needs to avoid silly mistakes...!!! Already this year there are two, zero from ham. I think these mistakes might decide the championship.

[stefa]

Both ferraris needs to lock out front row. That’s imp, kimi needs to lift up his q3 performances.
Vettel needs to avoid silly mistakes...!!! Already this year there are two, zero from ham. I think these mistakes might decide the championship.

Mistakes always decide...

[Vettel165]

Will see this track should suit us much more as France. Yes Hamilton didnt make many mistakes but he was dog slow in Montreal, Baku, China. Seb was never lacking pace this year, Hamilton did, end of the story. I hope we will strike back in Austria.

Forza Ferrari, Vettel, Kimi.

[stefa]

Will see this track should suit us much more as France. Yes Hamilton didnt make many mistakes but he was dog slow in Montreal, Baku, China. Seb was never lacking pace this year, Hamilton did, end of the story. I hope we will strike back in Austria.

Forza Ferrari, Vettel, Kimi.

Spain... ring any bells...?!

[Vettel165]

Spain... ring any bells...?!

It was because of high-tyre deg and suspension problems.

[Brembo]

It was because of high-tyre deg and suspension problems.

The teams need more tires to choose from. Imagine high tyre deg with Pirelli in charge! An "ultra non degrade " Say green with yellow stripes would do the trick.

[DelMar]

Both ferraris needs to lock out front row. That’s imp, kimi needs to lift up his q3 performances.
Vettel needs to avoid silly mistakes...!!! Already this year there are two, zero from ham. I think these mistakes might decide the championship.
Interesting I can at least remember one mistake from Lewis at Baku.

[nani_s23]

Interesting I can at least remember one mistake from Lewis at Baku.

Baku race ??? This year?

[DelMar]

Baku race ??? This year?
First I have to ask what mistake did Vettel do Baku?

[FerrariF60]

Will see this track should suit us much more as France. Yes Hamilton didnt make many mistakes but he was dog slow in Montreal, Baku, China. Seb was never lacking pace this year, Hamilton did, end of the story. I hope we will strike back in Austria.

Forza Ferrari, Vettel, Kimi.

yeah, but being consistent and mistake FREE will win you the WDC.....surely Seb was faster as an average in the first 8 races, but where did that get him??? behind in points compared to Luise....

he's gotta stop being a hot head in the first lap and try to WIN it in the first lap (at races that he don't get POLE) and play the long game....

that compared to consistency will win him teh WDC

[WS6TransAm01]

First I have to ask what mistake did Vettel do Baku?

When he out-breaked himself and locked up the tires into T1 after the restart and went from P2 to P5. I don't blame him for trying, but it was a mistake.

[nani_s23]

When he out-breaked himself and locked up the tires into T1 after the restart and went from P2 to P5. I don't blame him for trying, but it was a mistake.

Yup... my answer would the same ..!!

[DelMar]

When he out-breaked himself and locked up the tires into T1 after the restart and went from P2 to P5. I don't blame him for trying, but it was a mistake.
I know that, I asked it for a reason :)

Vettel dropped to P4 but he still made the corner!

I was alluding to the fact that, Hamilton in the same race ( with no other car breathing his neck, whatsoever), went into escape road after missing the breaking point. He lost 5 seconds there....

[wisepie]

Just looked at the weather forecast for Spielberg Austria and it looks as if there could be some thunderstorms both Saturday and Sunday and the temperatures aren't that high....favouring Merc and RB, no doubt. What's new?!:-E

[zike]

Just looked at the weather forecast for Spielberg Austria and it looks as if there could be some thunderstorms both Saturday and Sunday and the temperatures aren't that high....favouring Merc and RB, no doubt. What's new?!:-E

Yeah in the middle of the summer, just sucks

[Aberracus]

Rain is our enemy, rain was the culprit of not going out in FP3 and not getting a perfect setup for our boys


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[IulianFerrari]

Hoping for no rain on qualy and race. Seb has been faster than Lewis so far this season. Like i said in the other thread, its keeping himself out of trouble, with a lot of luck, is what brought Hamilton the lead. He is due a DNF here, not wishing that on anybody, but these things kind of balance themselves out. He has not suffered a DNF(like Kimi) or a Verstappen dive bomb(like Seb). About Max, he has cemented himself as a non-Ferrari future driver, when he played Hamilton's lapdog after last race. In parc-fermme, at the press conference, in that golf cart, he didnt know what else to say to get into Lewis's favors, thrashing Seb whenever he got the chance. Kid, Seb made one mistake in 8 races, you do one race out of 8 without a huge mistake. Big difference...

[FF1]

I was just thinking, will Mercedes get an idea from the ex Ferrari guy that getting more power from the battery is possible by bypassing the Fia sensors and they build such a battery or have done already with their current engines and Ferrari won't know as they don't have an insider or is it something that other teams can notice and act on it

[From Treviso]

I get the frustration with Seb's avoidable clashes with other cars, but it comes from him trying 100% to bring the WDC back to the company and for the Tifosi: he is under immense pressure. I don't want him to change a thing! Watching the clash from last race, I see it as Vettel being boxed in by both Lewis and Bottas, with the loss of downforce contributing to the collision. Had Bottas not been there cutting hard in front of Vettel, the race would have continued unabated. Vettel must not change, because if he does, he may as well be driving like Kimi and be fighting for the dregs in the top 6 positions!

[Brembo]

Or driving like Kimi and getting on the podium! Seb's interview after the race should have asked, How'd Kimi do? Kimi's points count as much as Seb's come WCC time. Fighting for dregs on the 3 podium positions isn't that bad. Points count!!!!

[paolo lalli]

Seb must stay calm claim good points and go for the win when he can with out having avoidable incidents all points are good there will be races where ferrari will be hot i expect this will be after the summer break .

[Aberracus]

Or driving like Kimi and getting on the podium! Seb's interview after the race should have asked, How'd Kimi do? Kimi's points count as much as Seb's come WCC time. Fighting for dregs on the 3 podium positions isn't that bad. Points count!!!!

I truly hope Kimi gets podiums in all
The races for the rest of the season



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[Cavallino]

Do we still maintain an advantage in higher temperatures?

That, combined with medium to higher downforce track says to me, that it will be good for us, and Red Bull, so good possiblity for cars to finish between Seb and Lewis.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=spielberg%2C+austria+weather&t=ffsb&ia=weather

[paolo lalli]

Who is pulling the strings in this puppet show easy toto wolf is having a go and the fia are also trying but unfortunately both are lousy puppeteers.

[jgonzalesm6]

Wet morning at the RedBull ring.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwoiigWkAIdo_q.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwpFOPXkAEo5Ke.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgwqp4mW0AA_qej.jpg


current forcast

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwhbdHWsAEkqxf.jpg

[512 TR]

Wet morning at the RedBull ring.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwoiigWkAIdo_q.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwpFOPXkAEo5Ke.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgwqp4mW0AA_qej.jpg


current forcast

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwhbdHWsAEkqxf.jpg

I hope the weather gets better, especially on saturday as qualifying will be key to victory. It's actually much more important for dry weather on saturday than on sunday for us on this stop-and-go circuit. I would much rather have it rain at Silverstone instead as that would be a lottery otherwise, in dry conditions, Merc will walk it. So the above pictures and forecast doesn't look good at all. I think we'll have to do an anti-rain dance.

[chinmay]

Both ferraris needs to lock out front row. That’s imp, kimi needs to lift up his q3 performances.
Vettel needs to avoid silly mistakes...!!! Already this year there are two, zero from ham. I think these mistakes might decide the championship.

You obviously don't watch Formula 1. Mercedes was faster than Ferrari in Monaco, Hamilton said after qualifying that due to his mistake, he lost 2nd place. He was fastest of all in Sector 1, pole was not possible because Red Bull was too strong in Sector 3 but Mercedes pace was good enough for 2nd place but Hamilton messed up big time.

"My first Q3 lap… I was happy with my last one. I was 0.27s but I lost it in the middle and the last sector so naturally not happy with that. That wouldn’t have been enough anyways for pole but it would have made a difference, obviously I would have been second."

In Canada, Hamilton had the car to be on pole and win the race. What happened there? That's another mistake. In Baku, every driver was going off due to wind, Vettel was not, he was supreme out there. After restart, Vettel had to make a move on Bottas, he couldn't wait for another lap because Ferrari was running high downforce, as a result, Mercedes was much quicker on the straights, if Vettel had waited for one lap, even Hamilton would've overtaken him.

I would strongly suggest you to stop reading news from pro Hamilton sites and start watching actual races to know what's going on.

[mwk360]

Mercedes bringing tons of new stuff. all aero and efficiency related, looks like a big package

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega

check last few posts from this guys twitter for some info.

i wonder who will win the development race hmmm, binotto's move now

[mwk360]

Mercedes bringing tons of new stuff. all aero and efficiency related, looks like a big package

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega

check last few posts from this guys twitter for some info.

i wonder who will win the development race hmmm, binotto's move now


MERCEDES W09: there is a big aerodynamic package at the RedBull Ring
http://www.f1analisitecnica.com/2018/06/gp-austria-mercedes-w09-ce-un-grande.html

[jgonzalesm6]

Official FIA forecast for Austria - Saturday: "General Improvement with sunny spells especially towards the afternoon with 60% chance of showers for FP3 while no rain is expected for Quali. Temp 21. Wind up to 40kph"

[Brembo]

What color are the rain tires?

[jgonzalesm6]

What color are the rain tires?

Green for inters and blue for full wets.

[Brembo]

Green for inters and blue for full wets.

jg 6, you are ultra qualified !! Thanks!!

[jgonzalesm6]

jg 6, you are ultra qualified !! Thanks!!

kewl....:-)


Kimi today at the press conference

Paul Ricard

Raikkonen; "What you ask? I don't think its right to... I think its the track where you can actually race. It was difficult.. We were racing two different races so it was different and enjoyable to race for some time"

Mclaren

Raikkonen to Crofty about McLaren link question: "I spoke to them for sure. I have been there before, but its not important to get into it. You can put it anyway you like, You often ask the question. You can right YES or No... Like you always do"


Performance

Raikkonen: 'If you purely take the points.. YES.. If you count the points .. Yes.. But a few things happened which is not ideal. A few small things happened."

[jgonzalesm6]

More pics of the upgraded W09

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50o5W0AArJP7.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50ozX4AIliSg.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50o1XkAEU_Jd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50o1W0AAMXPl.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC3FGWsAAzNAW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC3mOWAAEQiyA.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC30sW0AAL68W.jpg


and component allocations so far prior to the Austrian GP

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgxjQ_LW0AAuXoh.jpg

[bondilad]

Looks like mercs have copied the ferrari sidepods.

[nani_s23]

More pics of the upgraded W09

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50o5W0AArJP7.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50ozX4AIliSg.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50o1XkAEU_Jd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgx50o1W0AAMXPl.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC3FGWsAAzNAW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC3mOWAAEQiyA.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC30sW0AAL68W.jpg


and component allocations so far prior to the Austrian GP

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgxjQ_LW0AAuXoh.jpg

any updates of Ferrari?

[IulianFerrari]

kewl....:-)


Kimi today at the press conference

Paul Ricard

Raikkonen; "What you ask? I don't think its right to... I think its the track where you can actually race. It was difficult.. We were racing two different races so it was different and enjoyable to race for some time"

Mclaren

Raikkonen to Crofty about McLaren link question: "I spoke to them for sure. I have been there before, but its not important to get into it. You can put it anyway you like, You often ask the question. You can right YES or No... Like you always do"


Performance

Raikkonen: 'If you purely take the points.. YES.. If you count the points .. Yes.. But a few things happened which is not ideal. A few small things happened."

The way they are headhunting now with Ricciardo and now Raikkonen it seems most likely, that Alonso will not renew his contract, and they want a big name in the team. Unfortunately they don't have a lot to offer performance wise and I don't see neither of them going just for a paycheck. The only question for Kimi, if he doesn't resign with Ferrari, is if he still wants to hang around? Last year it was Renault with an offer, but Kimi re-signed with us, interesting to see what happens this year.

[jgonzalesm6]

any updates of Ferrari?

None yet.

[jgonzalesm6]

front wings in the paddock

Force India

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyK2bVWsAA1W75.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyK3xfWkAEy8ww.jpg


Merc's

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLHVuWAAYIs2k.jpg


HAAS

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLl1hXcAAZuTy.jpg


Renault

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLoXCW0AIXlBg.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyMx9dX0AY02Mh.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyMz6YWsAEJje7.jpg


STR

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLq_EXUAEyQ80.jpg


Williams

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyMb6GWAAEYiaK.jpg




Ferrari (nothing new at the moment)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLQEQXcAAfx1P.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLRODX0AIJUGX.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLaPEX4AEumoT.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyLkj6W0AA9ois.jpg


W09 old vs. new

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyNYS-WAAAQNdg.jpg ( NEW: bulge in between the 77....tighter engine cover)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyRZh8W0AEUdC1.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyRbKLW0AIIuLH.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyRmukW0AE7-SV.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyRoPwXcAAHMVZ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyR74RXUAAWOcd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyR9CdWAAEEGyw.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyUvHAX0AI2Ztd.jpg




All 20 cars have passed scrutineering and the official ENTRY LIST has been released with Robert Kubica running #40 on his FW41 tomorrow morning for FP1.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgycxwjWsAIJSYX.jpg

[mwk360]

Can see Sergio M getting involved soon, If mercedes take another gigantic step forward like france than Binotto and his crew are going to be under the knife

[wappad]

Can see Sergio M getting involved soon, If mercedes take another gigantic step forward like france than Binotto and his crew are going to be under the knife

Yeah, sack them all..you never get tired of yourself? Pfff..

[coshida]

According to AMuS Ferrari will bring new aero updates in Silverstone.

[jgonzalesm6]

According to AMuS Ferrari will bring new aero updates in Silverstone.

We DEFINITELY need them there.

[Greig]

Can see Sergio M getting involved soon, If mercedes take another gigantic step forward like france than Binotto and his crew are going to be under the knife

:rotfl

[mwk360]

Yeah, sack them all..you never get tired of yourself? Pfff..

I'm glad im the one that controls the legend Sergio M. heee haa

[FerrariF60]

Yeah, sack them all..you never get tired of yourself? Pfff..

Couldn’t have said it any better myself; sometimes I wonder if he,s a true Merc troll around this forum

[jgonzalesm6]

Vettel today:

The Italian media was very harsh towards you after your mistake

Vettel: "I don't speak/understand Italian that well, so I didn‘t notice."

They [Italian media] say that the car is so good that you must and should become champion with it

Vettel: "Then someone else should drive. They should hire someone else that has to do that."



[AMuS] Mercedes: "Big aerodynamic update. It was always their plan to get this big update ready in either Paul Ricard, Spielberg or Silverstone."

Red Bull: "New party mode which brings about 15hp more in quali."

Ferrari: "Aerodynamic evolution in Silverstone."



[AMuS] Abiteboul confirms that from now on, Red Bull, Mclaren and Renault will also have a qualifying mode. 10-15hp more. No sacrifice reliability. Improved MGU-K, but quali mode is not because of that but mainly because of the internal combustion!"

[aroutis]

Can see Sergio M getting involved soon, If mercedes take another gigantic step forward like france than Binotto and his crew are going to be under the knife

You are making zero sense.

[FerrariF60]

so from the weather forecast, looks like Friday will be a washout with 90% rain
this sucks as we're gonna be on the backfoot again NOT being able to set up our car to teh best it can be to extract the maximum from QUALI.

[ScuderiaBuckeye]

so from the weather forecast, looks like Friday will be a washout with 90% rain
this sucks as we're gonna be on the backfoot again NOT being able to set up our car to teh best it can be to extract the maximum from QUALI.

Why wouldn't this interfere equally with the preparation of every team?

[jgonzalesm6]

Why wouldn't this interfere equally with the preparation of every team?

my thoughts exactly.

[nani_s23]

Vettel today:

The Italian media was very harsh towards you after your mistake

Vettel: "I don't speak/understand Italian that well, so I didn‘t notice."

They [Italian media] say that the car is so good that you must and should become champion with it

Vettel: "Then someone else should drive. They should hire someone else that has to do that."



[AMuS] Mercedes: "Big aerodynamic update. It was always their plan to get this big update ready in either Paul Ricard, Spielberg or Silverstone."

Red Bull: "New party mode which brings about 15hp more in quali."

Ferrari: "Aerodynamic evolution in Silverstone."



[AMuS] Abiteboul confirms that from now on, Red Bull, Mclaren and Renault will also have a qualifying mode. 10-15hp more. No sacrifice reliability. Improved MGU-K, but quali mode is not because of that but mainly because of the internal combustion!"

Wtever mode they use, Renault still can’t touch the power of Ferrari & mercs engines.

[nani_s23]

my thoughts exactly.

Mercs & RB cars work straight out of the box. Ferrari will play with set-up & rely on simulator work.

[Aberracus]

Mercs & RB cars work straight out of the box. Ferrari will play with set-up & rely on simulator work.

This has proven true
Normally this will let us get big gains from Friday to Saturday better than the rest


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[totox]

You are making zero sense.

like the 99% of the time

[jgonzalesm6]

Wtever mode they use, Renault still can’t touch the power of Ferrari & mercs engines.

True that. Going forward, it will take a couple of years for Renault to catch up in the hp dept IMO. RedBull is ahead of the Renault and Mclaren in the suspension dept. They are right up there with Ferrari and MB in the suspension and aero dept on certain tracks. It will be a matter of time when Renault will not accept RedBull beating them now that they have an ex-FIA tech director (Budkowski) and now an ex-Mercedes Benz guy. Buy that time maybe, the rules would have already been changed. Look how long it's taken Ferrari to equal MB in the hp dept!!!

I forgot what GP it was in 2018, maybe Canada, but the gap between the top 3 against the rest of the field was so huge that you could fit the Titanic in between.

[ScuderiaBuckeye]

Mercs & RB cars work straight out of the box. Ferrari will play with set-up & rely on simulator work.

Then perhaps the smart thing for Ferrari to do is to make sure their car works straight out of the box also so they are not caught out by this thing called...rain.

Also...I don't necessarily agree with your assessment either. I think Ferrari tends to play their cards close to the vest on Friday and not let their true pace show until Saturday, but still...it does rain.

[KonPatTsh]

If it' rain on friday it's raining for everybody not only for Ferrari.

[Brembo]

RB's Dan's birthday is Sun. Race Day! I wonder if Max will move over for him ?:rotfl

[slak]

Why are these mirrors not illegal?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC3mOWAAEQiyA.jpg

[Deephouse]

Why are these mirrors not illegal?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC3mOWAAEQiyA.jpg

Because they don't interact with the halo in any way.

[jgonzalesm6]

Why are these mirrors not illegal?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyC3mOWAAEQiyA.jpg


Because they don't interact with the halo in any way.

Ferrari are contesting the support structure of the mirror as an aero device.

[aroutis]

Ferrari are contesting the support structure of the mirror as an aero device.

And they should, these are clearly made as an aero device.

[jgonzalesm6]

And they should, these are clearly made as an aero device.

yep. They (Charlie & FIA) will probably let them run the "illegal" mirrors this race and by next race they should be off; just like Ferrari's issue with the winglets on the mirrors via halo.

[Aberracus]

yep. They (Charlie & FIA) will probably let them run the "illegal" mirrors this race and by next race they should be off; just like Ferrari's issue with the winglets on the mirrors via halo.

Not really, Ferrari’s winglets were a loophole on the rules, these are not.


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[ScuderiaBuckeye]

Not really, Ferrari’s winglets were a loophole on the rules, these are not.


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Actually Merc's are as well...they are calling them a load-bearing device and thus part of the crash structure of the car.

[Aberracus]

Actually Merc's are as well...they are calling them a load-bearing device and thus part of the crash structure of the car.

Probably load bearing for mirror support
FIA will let them run with it, Mercedes always get their way, let’s hope not.


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[slak]

Because they don't interact with the halo in any way.

Ferrari mirrors were banned because the supporting structure was seen as an aero device.
How is this different?

[Deephouse]

Ferrari mirrors were banned because the supporting structure was seen as an aero device.
How is this different?

I thought they were banned because they were seen as aero pieces on the halo region. I may be wrong though. If so my bad.

[jgonzalesm6]

Ferrari mirrors were banned because the supporting structure was seen as an aero device.
How is this different?

Ferrari mirrors were not banned. They are still there today along with their supporting structure. The winglets coming off the supporting structure via the mirrors from the halo were banned.


I thought they were banned because they were seen as aero pieces on the halo region. I may be wrong though. If so my bad.

see above

[Brembo]

I can't believe there's no tire talk here??? Not very colorful posts here today?